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#4002689 - 08/30/14 02:21 AM Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again  
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For Will Hayden, former star of the Discovery Channels Sons of Guns accused of raping a 12-year-old girl, doors are already slamming shut.

His reality show has been canceled, evidence of its existence scrubbed from Discoverys Web site. As The Washington Posts Emily Yahr reported: Given the serious and horrific nature of the charges against Will Hayden, we have decided to halt further production of Sons of Guns and cancel the series, the network said in a statement Wednesday.

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#4002701 - 08/30/14 03:25 AM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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I've never even heard of this guy or his show.


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#4002708 - 08/30/14 04:26 AM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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#4002774 - 08/30/14 10:50 AM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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Does anyone else think it's unfair that based on CHARGES, not a conviction, his livelihood is gone? What happens if he's acquitted? His life will still be ruined, people will still think of him as "the guy who was accused of raping his daughter." Is it really necessary to make the name and charges public?


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#4002779 - 08/30/14 11:13 AM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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I don't know the story behind and don't really care, but I agree with NH2112. Charges don't mean crap until you can prove them. It's too easy for someone to claim something. All you have to do is make a false claim, and your target is destroyed no matter what happens. There's very little to discourage you from doing it either.


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#4002811 - 08/30/14 01:56 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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#4002816 - 08/30/14 01:59 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I've never even heard of this guy or his show.


Me, either.


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#4002818 - 08/30/14 02:01 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: HogDriver]  
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Originally Posted By: HogDriver
I don't know the story behind and don't really care, but I agree with NH2112. Charges don't mean crap until you can prove them. It's too easy for someone to claim something. All you have to do is make a false claim, and your target is destroyed no matter what happens. There's very little to discourage you from doing it either.


This is exactly the reason why I stand by most European countries laws and rules that you cannot publish a suspects name under any circumstances. There have been so many instances of individuals being wrongly targeted or accused, only for it to ruin their lives anyways because of the stigma attached.

Very disappointing that a witch hunt begins before there is even a verdict.


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#4002823 - 08/30/14 02:17 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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But if it was a cop, some of the same people posting in this thread would already have him convicted... just saying.

#4002827 - 08/30/14 02:32 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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I did watch the show not for the fake story lines,
But for the guns his company made some very cool custom weapons.
I believe you are innocent to proven guilty.
I new a guy who's whole life was ruined by a false allegation by his ex partner
The guy ended up a drunk lost his job friends his mother died not knowing he was innocent
He was found not guilty by a jury. but the damage was done.
Not saying give will hayden a break if he is guilty he deserves to be castrated.
And jailed for life. but maybe discovery should have put his show on hold, to the outcome of the investigation /trial and not cancel the show altogether.

#4002834 - 08/30/14 02:40 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: Magnum]  
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Originally Posted By: Magnum
But if it was a cop, some of the same people posting in this thread would already have him convicted... just saying.


Agreed.

According to the reports, the girl's mother, an ex girlfriend of the accused, is the major complainant this time.

Let this be a lesson, fellas. There are a lot of stupid things you can do with your junk. Try to avoid it.


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#4002839 - 08/30/14 02:47 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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The show was a bit too tacticool for me, to be honest.

The reality of the USA, however, is that anything to do with child molestation, including the accusation, usually gains one official persona non grata status. Because it's difficult to prove molestation, even if he's acquitted at trial few will believe it was anything but a function of technicality.


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#4002844 - 08/30/14 02:53 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: Magnum]  
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Originally Posted By: Magnum
But if it was a cop, some of the same people posting in this thread would already have him convicted... just saying.


Pretty sure he is a reserve deputy sheriff.

#4002853 - 08/30/14 03:18 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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Yeah, it's wrong to punish the guy before he's found guilty. Just the accusation of child molestation pretty much destroys your life. A guy I knew through a friend went through a very nasty divorce. His ex wanted sole custody of their kids so she planted a kiddy porn photo on his PC and accused him of being a pedo. Pretty much ruined his life. Even after the truth came out, people still avoid him. Background checks still cause him no end of problems and he still gets the cops called on him from time to time.


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#4002899 - 08/30/14 04:35 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I've never even heard of this guy or his show.


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#4002902 - 08/30/14 04:38 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: PFunk]  
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Originally Posted By: PFunk
Originally Posted By: Magnum
But if it was a cop, some of the same people posting in this thread would already have him convicted... just saying.


Agreed.

According to the reports, the girl's mother, an ex girlfriend of the accused, is the major complainant this time.

Let this be a lesson, fellas. There are a lot of stupid things you can do with your junk. Try to avoid it.


Yeah, they never have an agenda.

#4002922 - 08/30/14 05:24 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: PFunk]  
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Originally Posted By: PFunk
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According to the reports, the girl's mother, an ex girlfriend of the accused, is the major complainant this time.

Let this be a lesson, fellas. There are a lot of stupid things you can do with your junk. Try to avoid it.


Who was the complainant the last time?


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#4002973 - 08/30/14 07:36 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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As always it is innocent until proven guilty and the ex thing is an angle of course. But the fact that his daughter Stephanie who was with him throughout the whole show and the people working for him like Flem & Vince plus Chris Stephanie's husband all in brief statements made, backup the victim and the fact Hayden does not own red jacket so there is no monetary value in him being in jail or death row, raises some serious questions.

Have watched a few episodes of the show and he is albeit dramatized with corny music, close to his daughter always talking about family ect ect, so for her all of a sudden to flip is something I think. My two cents anyway obviously it wont be known until judge/jury make a verdict.


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#4002981 - 08/30/14 07:58 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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He may have done it, but that's up to a jury to decide. This guy has been found guilty in every place BUT the courtroom, though, and his life is ruined for good now. Look what happened to Richard Jewell, the Olympic security guard who stopped the bombing in Atlanta. Just being accused of having something to do with it left him unable to get a job, and he eventually ate a gun over it. Other than the pop culture aspect of it, is there a reason why the accused's name has to be released? Does it EVER benefit the accused?


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#4002985 - 08/30/14 08:20 PM Re: Will Hayden Arrested for Child Rape... Again [Re: DetCord]  
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Not to derail the thread but Richard Jewell was successfully exonerated, worked with several law enforcement agency, rake over the coals of those who did libel and died of poor health from his diabetes.

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