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#3744840 - 03/04/13 09:37 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: Sokol1]  
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Hi Sokol1!
I'm tormented conscience. I have not given You the drawings of the pedals frown Sorry again!
Originally Posted By: Sokol1
Why not start a new tread with your "Project one" joystick mechanics. wink

I have a lot of devices! With what to begin? What will be interesting to know on this forum? I need help. I'm bad I can tell with the help of Google translator. I ask You to be my representative! I will write. You will explain to the guys difficult places. Agreed?

What is the name of a new topic to make?

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3771096 - 04/21/13 02:40 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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As I finish, I will make a new theme smile

#3771170 - 04/21/13 06:09 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: Baur]  
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Bloody brilliant work mate! I am looking forward the final product!!! jawdrop

#3771326 - 04/22/13 06:38 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I hope this year to finish. Always show!!! Who likes, 2-4 pieces will be able to sell. But it is a separate theme smile

#3771327 - 04/22/13 06:47 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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For two years I made a completely new 3D model.

#3772746 - 04/24/13 09:35 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I would be interested in one

Let us know

Great job Baur


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#3773166 - 04/25/13 04:56 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: Steven190]  
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Originally Posted By: Steven190
I would be interested in one...
Well, I need to know, where according to the rules make the subject of the sale?

Look at the result of the prototyping - http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21674#21674


Now the details you need to grind,
make silicon form and shape of plastic.

#3773685 - 04/26/13 05:37 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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You gotta love SLS printers.

With a few tweaks to the model, that could be easily printed on a cheap 3D filament printer.

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#3773726 - 04/26/13 06:35 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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All the tricks are useless, if we want to get quality...


Probably I do not understand? smile

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#3773833 - 04/26/13 09:35 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I've printed things with a 90 micron layer height on my Rostock MAX with no problems. By adding a tiny amount of support structure where needed, I could probably print all the grip parts without a problem. My print volume is 280mm round by 360mm tall.

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#3774410 - 04/28/13 07:45 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
I've printed things with a 90 micron layer height on my Rostock MAX with no problems. By adding a tiny amount of support structure where needed, I could probably print all the grip parts without a problem.


This is good. But I did at affordable me technologies. In General it is very expensive in Russia. For me it cost 500 Euro frown

The amount of detail I did to it was then conveniently their casting of plastic. Could also be made fully.

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#3774824 - 04/29/13 11:17 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Baur,

I don`t mind if we continue to discuss it here, but I think your work deserves a dedicated topic. I know that this english site is a bit challenging, so I took the chance and opened a topic for you!

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3774820/Baur_s_KG13_Grip#Post3774820

I suggest to post your progress over there so everyone can be aware of it!

#3774838 - 04/29/13 12:02 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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VO101MMaister a huge thank you! I really difficult to control this forum. I don't speak English.

#3995061 - 08/13/14 09:19 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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I see this is an old topic and none of the links are panning out for me. I am in the process of building my own KG-13 as well. I don't have an original, but I did manage to get access to one at a museum. Wondering how one goes about getting the electronics for it? I was going to just take the guts out of my old Logitech stick until I can figure it out myself (I am not an engineer).

Any tips?

#3995127 - 08/13/14 11:49 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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The most easy way to add electronics, the USB controller card that translate buttons press, axis pot/sensors movements to computer is buy one dedicated card, like these (probable the most used by DIY "josyticks):

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?...45cf0168228a59f

You can even assembly your own USB controller boards and write then with a firmware, like MMjoy.

Or buy a development board, like ATMEL and wire then with Hempstead firmware...

Hack a old joystick is doable, but their electronics are not the best possible, and is difficult trace PCB connections and wire new buttons...

Sokol1


#3997882 - 08/19/14 12:40 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Here they got a cheap half produced stick and buttons for the KG 13

http://www.simparts.de/epages/15465782.s...Warbirds/ME_109

#4001579 - 08/27/14 02:32 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: Sokol1]  
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Cool, thanks for the tip! That was exactly what I wanted.

#4371349 - 07/28/17 01:23 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Do you still make these stick grips I have replica Fw190A8 and would like to put it in my plane...


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#4371398 - 07/28/17 10:21 AM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Not 100% correct on very top but with some putty work will look ok.
https://www.shapeways.com/search?q=Kg12&type=

#4371415 - 07/28/17 01:03 PM Re: MMaister's KG13A project! [Re: VO101MMaister]  
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Other option of KG-12/13 grips - beside the Baur KG-13B show in this topic:

Cheb2006 KG-13B

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/23860-kg-13-kbtt-another-one-look-replica/page-2#entry493720

- Grip cast in plastic resin Beresin G26 (German components).
- B Knopf holder in metal
- Trigger cast in Nickel
- Buttons cap in plastic resin over base/mechanism of buttons 205K/204K - buttons like ones used in some Russian military grips, e.g. old Mig's.

Here in SimHQ are a topic - done by VO101MMaister about a aluminum cast version of KG-13B sell be some guy - but is not this used in their joystick.

Found it: http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4255604/Luftwaffe_controls_for_simmers




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