So Mace, you opinion is that Nate's opinion of Brit's opinion of my opinion is in your opinion somewhat opinionated ?

Given that Im bracing myself for the big 50 soonish I am glad of the opinion that I am and I quote a "Young Boy". Not the dirty old man I see myself a and therefore in no ones opinion should have an opinion. Well I do so. Knickers to you lot !

Was that, in all seriousness, your take-away from my post?

Rather stunning.

Don't sweat it Cobra. Some people just want to hate and will find a way.

I appreciate a good tease and I appreciate seeing the -21 in action. Helps me know it's just around the corner.

So if I interpret your post correctly, my opinion isn't honest because I'm a "fanboy" and anyone who agrees with me is a butt licker? Did I get that right?

Hmm..it will really suck for you if this MiG-21 turns out to be the mutt's nuts when it is released huh?

BeachAV8R

That sentence really screwed with my head.

BeachAV8R

We have a LOT of options for air-to-ground in the MiG-21. This is a quick attack on some range targets with rockets and wing mounted gun pods.



OK, targets in sight. I have a panel above my gun sight that controls the gun pods but I'll start out with rockets.





OK, close enough!



Now I can set up for my guns run.



Everything is lined up and I fire a burst from both pods.





Maybe a touch short but not bad!

looks good

I really like that paint job a lot.

Einstein and I had an awesome two hour MP session this evening. All we did was fly around and marvel at how unbelievable this plane and the level of detailing is. Pushed a lot of buttons and tried to break a bunch of stuff. Einstein is a great formation flyer and he let me bury my head in the cockpit to try to figure out why my radar wasn't working (missed a switch somewhere!)..









A great time and no damaged MiGs! I almost ran EP out of fuel though..I think he landed with 300 liters..<g>

BeachAV8R

So it is announced in STEAM for October, 1st now...

http://store.steampowered.com/app/316964/

Which means....

No, its

Usually the product is released earlier in the DCS online shop Can't wait. Seems to be awesome.

Now talk about Leatherneck's DCS MIG-23

Well, to be honest, I don't consider unguided rockets or guns separately. For all the Russian birds with the 20 types of rockets or gun pods that can be mounted, I just count those all as "rockets and guns."
Likewise slick bombs are slick bombs, regardless of the weight ranges.

Now guided missiles I count separately, but only in their variant. So for example I don't count every variant of the Maverick the A-10 carries as a separate weapon, they're all Mavericks.

The Su-25T carries a LOT of different AG ordnance, from the Kh-58 to the 29T to the S-25T to the Vikhr to "rockets and guns and slick bombs". The Ka-50 carries a limited range, but it's well suited so Vikhrs and unguided rockets + gun is usually all you need anyway.

So if I'm going up against ground targets that don't shoot back I will like trying the 21 out, but its high speed and less robust duplication of systems means I don't go hunting Shilkas or SAMs or even APCs that have laser-guided MGs with it.




The Jedi Master

300L on touchdown, just a hair over 200 by the time I spooled down. There was about 100L of sweat in the cockpit, though.

This plane is fun to fly and gorgeous to stare at. We flew close formation for what, a good 45 minutes? Near the end, my flying hand was a little tense from trying to keep position, but I enjoyed every minute of it. Folks can complain about the "stale" terrain all they want, but seeing the snow-topped Caucasus mountains through the broken clouds and scratched canopy of a MiG-21 was mesmerizing.

Is it not the problem with all russian fighters... they are mostly design as pure intercepter (with an option to deliver A2G weapons) - the first "multirole" russian aircraft, i think, is the Su-34 (like the F-16C, F-15E or the F/A-18C/E on US side).

So at the end the mission designer need to find a proper tasks for the MiG-21.....with out having a correct opponent.

Using the flashlight (yes, there is one) to hunt around the cockpit at night for switches...



Dat spike...



Flying formation..





BeachAV8R

Neither the F-15E or Su-34 are multi-role, and one might argue that the hornets aren't either.

The MiG-29SM does well as a multi-role equivalent of the F-16, and follows a similarish history.



That's always the case, but really ... MiG-21's and F-15s have clashed in RL.

I'm curious to hear that argument. The F/A-18's the only modern aircraft that has ever actually done multi-role; killing an enemy aircraft and then proceding to destroy a ground target in the same mission.



The Bis entered service two years before the F-14, and four years before the F-15. It might be outclassed, but it's certainly not an improper opponent for the majority of aircraft in DCS's library.

That's like saying that ducks and hunters clash