Ramon you are the only poster on this thread who intentionally tries to belittle his peers. Your statements such as again and again and again and again. are insulting, puerile and unwanted. Do we have to act like children here? If you are uninterested in the opinions of your peers do not read them. Then you will not have to deal with them again and again. If you have something to contribute do so respectfully. If you spoke to your neighbor as you do here you would get a punch in the teeth. Why do you act so disrespectfully here?

To the other contributers, respect. This thread has been far more constructive than I had hoped. No yells of " go play War Thunder" Just IL2 Stalingrad , which as a founder Im happy to play.It is shaping up to be a excellent sim.

I believe it is a legitimate concern when a publisher provides a product in part. Namely a plane but without a theater or an adversary. I dont dislike the Sabre. I dont dislike the modular nature of the game. I just dislike the lazy way it is pitched to us.

For theaters, I still wait for the Nevada I paid for. Id much rather be waiting for an Iraq or Iran, Israel or Vietnam. Or a Korea. Somewhere where there has been action or where we could withhold our disbelief and be immersed in. Why they thought the community would want a training base more than a war theater is beyond me. The current map has potential particularly with the politics at present. But come on , its basically the same map as LOMAC. Move on!
At the very least a theater should be provided for iconic planes. A Sabre needs Korea. A Phantom needs Vietnam or the middle east. Same for the mig 21. Id love a sim of a Thud and a map of thud ridge. Instead we get, no we dont get Nevada.

I hope things do start coming together for DCS. Il keep watching and hoping that they will make a more reasoned product.

You said, among other things, that you don't like the complexity. DCS is complex. Complexity doesn't make it better or worse than other sims. It just makes it DCS. If you see this as me being elitist, I'm sorry, but it's you that has an inferiority complex.

I think I very politely pointed you to a sim that seemed to suit your needs the most, even though unknowingly to me you already have it and like it.

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For all your non-sterile, non-full-real needs.

I loved MIG Alley. It was a great game with a great campaign engine.
I look at what DCS is producing and I am disappointed. It seems to moving away from cohesion rather than towards it. It appears to be more like Microsoft Flight Simulator. The buttons becoming more important than AI or campaign immersion.

Ive played flight sims since the days of Pentium 2 with my vodoo2 graphics card and Total Air War. So not new here. To the " full real" crowd. All power to you , but cant you see whats happening to the hobby. How big was the manual for A10. Its realistic but to how many people is it fun. Ever less. Now the new Sabre, if it were packaged in Korea with a decent campaign Id get it. Id love to hear the radio message "planes over Sinuiju" again. I Used to love the radio calls in Mig Alley. But no , DCS Sabre is as sterile as its other projects and as cohesive.

I expect the next random plane in the series will be the highly desirable Fiat G91 and the next map probably New Zealand.I will like many vote with my wallet. But it makes me sad to see a producer so lost.

You wrote in your original reply:



If that's being polite I don't want to know what being impolite (as well as not having a superiority complex) means to you.

PS dear SimHQ mods, what does this have to do with the F-86?

I want a Oscar EW-5894 Fallus Tactical Fighter Bomber

Hehehe wasn´t that the Gnat in Hot Shots? Loved that movie. Just as much as the jet airplane of Airplane! with propeller sounding engines!

The OP clearly stated in the beginning about Mig Alley and is making comparisons since they both have the F-86's. You see someone that has legitimate gripes about it so you make a plea to the mods to shut this thread down? I imagine next will be phase 2 will where you start a flame war to try and get the thread locked?

The OP makes some valid points. It doesn't mean the thread needs to be locked down and deleted because you don't agree.

Jeez Sith…running a little late today? Maybe there was a back up at the time clock at ED for you to punch in a report for work here at the SimHQ forum?

The OP also stated "I Used to love the radio calls in Mig Alley. But no , DCS Sabre is as sterile as its other projects and as cohesive." Pretty much spot on and on topic for this release.

I would remain hopeful that the release of Edge will allow other areas to be worked on so we could have a kick ass Korean war sim…but I remain skeptical.

These forums are ridiculous, It's almost as bad as teenage high school girls.

It all goes on until a mod show up to put a bit of order, can we skip to that part immediately?

These forums are ridiculous, It's almost as bad as teenage high school girls.