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#3989198 - 08/01/14 05:05 AM Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose  
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Darn, what a shame.
Luckily the pilot walked away. Looks to me like a perfect approach and flare under the conditions.



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#3989218 - 08/01/14 06:38 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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yea i bet the engine is a bit of a mess after that, hopefully the rest of the damage (cept the landing gear) is light and they get it flying again sharpish smile


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#3989225 - 08/01/14 08:33 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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Pretty obvious, but I guess the landing gear failed to lock down. Such a perfect belly landing though, incredibly smooth.

#3989238 - 08/01/14 09:59 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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Hopefully it can be repaired and will be flying again soon.

Apart from the human cost it's always a real shame when a warbird crashes and is lost to history.

#3989282 - 08/01/14 12:50 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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It's the catch 22--do you ground them and preserve them more securely, or let them continue to fly where they have more meaning but the risk of loss is far greater?



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#3989312 - 08/01/14 01:55 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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#3989319 - 08/01/14 02:27 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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i had friends posting this w/ pix and video on facebook for a few hours yesterday, then later on, the news articles started coming up.


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#3989320 - 08/01/14 02:28 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: FlyingToaster]  
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Originally Posted By: FlyingToaster
Pretty obvious, but I guess the landing gear failed to lock down. Such a perfect belly landing though, incredibly smooth.


yeah, the gears were waving around like wind chimes from the video's I've seen.


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#3989651 - 08/02/14 11:21 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: FlyingToaster]  
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Originally Posted By: FlyingToaster
Pretty obvious, but I guess the landing gear failed to lock down. Such a perfect belly landing though, incredibly smooth.


Must have been short on hydraulics, seen the huge oil smoke he was trailing.


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#3989682 - 08/02/14 01:44 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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That was a smooth belly landing, kudo's to the lucky pilot.
I don't think the plane is a total loss, although it will costs a lot to repair it, I wonder if it is insured for that sort of thing.

#3989720 - 08/02/14 03:04 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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I think the aircraft is operated by the Royal Navy Historical Flight, so it's owned by the Ministry of Defence. They're not short of a few quid....

#3989738 - 08/02/14 03:45 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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The break in the video makes it a little unclear whether he was landing normally after his demo or if he cut the demo short because there was a problem. Lowering the gear so quickly before touchdown is not normally done so my assumption is that he turned final fully aware of trouble and hoping for the best.

#3989759 - 08/02/14 04:27 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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Good job by the pilot!

Hindsight being what it is, pity he didn't go for the turf wheels up.

WWII aircraft are extremely robust, so we can safely assume the spars are okay based on the low speed, low G impact with the runway. He greased that wingtip to the pavement and it slid smoothly, with the other side easing more than slamming down to the runway.

So let's tally what we can see for damage:

Engine rebuild, along with a new prop. Not a big deal; they probably rebuild it as much as NASCAR crews do to their engines, just to inspect it.
Flaps are toast. Repair and rebuild; they're probably salvageable as I'll bet they were forced closed. If they stayed open it's actually better for the airframe.
Gear is toast. Repair and rebuild; again, probably salvageable, though they may need to make new skirts for the gear.
Cowl is damaged, along with the underside of the fuselage. Remove and repair; I see a lot of English wheel and bags of shot in their future.
Wingtip and right wing skin repair. They'll have to remove it regardless to check the spars and ribs.

Very, very fixable.

On the money, it's not an issue. Any warbird above an L-4 and if one has to ask how much to buy, maintain and repair it, one can't afford it. Even without a wreck, keeping a warbird airworthy and in even just occasional flight throughout the year can run half a million dollars without a problem. It's not "a man and his Sea Fury," it's "a man and his maintenance team and shop and his Sea Fury." In this case, the gov't is involved, but even in private hands the folks with flying warbirds have deep pockets. The other option is to pool resources with others, like the CFA, in order to keep them in the air.

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#3989801 - 08/02/14 06:26 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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The T.20 is owned by the Fly Navy Heritage Trust and is civil registered. It's operated by the Royal Navy Historic Flight, hence the Fleet Air Arm driver. Well done to the pilot for making a judgement call and saving a great aeroplane. The RNHF lost a single seat Sea Fury a few years ago when the pilot bailed out following undercarriage problems, then they lost another after engine problems. Looks like both happened this time..


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#3989875 - 08/02/14 10:34 PM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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The wingtip vortices at 0:13 are interesting. I didn't think warplanes of that era could make them. Wingtip vortices appear in IL-2, but I thought that was just for drama.

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#3989913 - 08/03/14 01:10 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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I make vortices all the time in the Pitts. Today was cool and humid and I vorticed both wings pulling for a humpty with a 1/2 roll on the up and 2 of 4 on the down. A feat I've never achieved before!

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#3989970 - 08/03/14 10:45 AM Re: Sea Fury crash-landing at Royal Navy Culdrose [Re: Sluggish Controls]  
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Sad to see that. I watched that aircraft perform just last weekend at the Sunderland air show.

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I wondered if it was this aircraft coming to KB for the Airforce days next month but it is a Dutch Sea Fury that will be flying here.

Very smooth landing, great job by the pilot in getting her down safely.


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