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#3984358 - 07/22/14 12:37 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: FearlessFrog]  
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog

I'm no expert on ARMA strykerpsg, but here's how I got it to work:

- Copy the entire Apache mod archive contents (key file and all) to a new set of '@FZA/Addons' directories under the ARMAII:OA steam directory. (i.e. Z:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead)

- Started up OA, go to 'Extensions' and activate the new FZA Apache addon. I then got the 'CA_Water' file warning when restarting OA.

- Installed plain ARMA II from Steam, but when done then copy the entire 'AddOns' directory from that to the base directory for ARMAII:OA. After you copy that directory across (it's about 8GB) then you don't need plain ARMAII installed anymore. More details in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkD5fxsdvMY

- Play.

Hope that helps and good luck! smile


OK, not having any luck at all with this. I copied the Addon folder from the Arma2 directory so I could insert it into my Arrowhead directory later. It's size is about 8 gb or so, so it matches your description. I then re-installed Arrowhead, started it and got a missing string message but it started anyway. I exited, installed the Apache mod as you described and started up the game. Again, string missing message and starts up. However, the Apache campaign or missions don't show. Just the stock Arrowhead campaigns. I know it's not so tough to install, but I am genuinely stumped on how to get it to work. Anyway, I'll do a search on the web to see if there's help out there but I'm willing to listen to any additional ideas you, Beach or anyone else may have on how to get it to start. Such a simple mod and no joy...........


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#3984363 - 07/22/14 12:43 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Apologies. Had a busy day yesterday and am currently back at work. When I get home later this evening I'll take a look at my install and try to help you out. I recall that I had to modify the Steam launch parameters and add the @AH64 (or whatever folder you have the AH-64 mod in) to the command line.

When I get home I'll get a copy of my Steam command line and maybe that will help...

Startup Parameters

EDIT - One other thing I had to do (I think) was to copy an entire folder from ARMA2 to ARMA2 OA or vice versa..I can't remember which, but that solved the problem similar to what you had I think. Again, once I get home I think I'll have a better idea of what I had to do to get it working..

BeachAV8R

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#3984508 - 07/22/14 05:08 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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You could always go the extreme route and toss the files into your addons folder, normally it is not recommended since doing this with too many addons will bog your start up down but it is the simplest solution.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 2\AddOns

#3984849 - 07/23/14 11:27 AM Re: Apache Diary [Re: Nodunit]  
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Originally Posted By: Nodunit
You could always go the extreme route and toss the files into your addons folder, normally it is not recommended since doing this with too many addons will bog your start up down but it is the simplest solution.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 2\AddOns


Are you saying DON'T use or install Operation Arrowhead? I only installed Arrowhead, as I did the first time too and got the missions to show, but at the time needed the CA Water file and some others that were needed to make it operate as well. I currently have the Addons folder from the base game installed in the Arrowhead main directory and the Apache mod, in it's own folder, installed in the Expansions/Addon directory of Arrowhead.


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#3984854 - 07/23/14 11:55 AM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Alrighty.. I DO have Arma2 and Operation Arrowhead installed. When I play - I launch the Operation Arrowhead shortcut using my desktop icon and my Steam command line reads this:

-mod=@AH64;@CBA_CO;@Blastcore_Visuals_R1.2;@gtmod;@Clafghan

I have the mods in directories:



And I also think I copied all of the files from the Arma2/Addons directory to the Arma2/Operation Arrowhead/Addons directory. I still have Arma2 installed, but I'm not sure if I really need it.

Hope that helps...

BeachAV8R



#3985063 - 07/23/14 08:20 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: strykerpsg]  
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
[quote=Nodunit]Are you saying DON'T use or install Operation Arrowhead?


I misunderstood the problem.

Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
I still have Arma2 installed, but I'm not sure if I really need it.


In order to play the campaign and training missions you will need Arma 2 as they use the islands and assets from the original game.


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#3985296 - 07/24/14 12:03 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: Nodunit]  
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Originally Posted By: Nodunit
In order to play the campaign and training missions you will need Arma 2 as they use the islands and assets from the original game.

Ah..thanks for that bit of info!

So did ya' get it working stryker? Dealing with Steam installs can be frustrating for modding..for sure..

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#3985307 - 07/24/14 12:39 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
Originally Posted By: Nodunit
In order to play the campaign and training missions you will need Arma 2 as they use the islands and assets from the original game.

Ah..thanks for that bit of info!

So did ya' get it working stryker? Dealing with Steam installs can be frustrating for modding..for sure..

BeachAV8R

Installing ARMA2 as you read this. I'll try both recommendations and will let you know the outcome. Thanks in advance and appreciate the kindness as well as the patience.


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#3985361 - 07/24/14 02:08 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
Alrighty.. I DO have Arma2 and Operation Arrowhead installed. When I play - I launch the Operation Arrowhead shortcut using my desktop icon and my Steam command line reads this:

-mod=@AH64;@CBA_CO;@Blastcore_Visuals_R1.2;@gtmod;@Clafghan

Hope that helps...

BeachAV8R




Beach, thanks for the pic of your directory, it helps. Is the Command line the URL or the Shortcut key space on the Arrowhead Shortcut? I haven't used a command line in quite some time.

Also, still haven't gotten it to run yet. I see the regular missions but not the Apache ones. Does the key have to be installed separate from the pbo files or does your reside with the unzipped file in your OA directory in one folder?

I'm off to bed, will resume with this install this weekend. Thanks much to you and nodunit for your assistance.


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#3985364 - 07/24/14 02:15 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: strykerpsg]  
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No, the command line is actually set within the Steam menu. If you start up Steam, go to your Library, go to ARMA2 Operation Arrowhead, right click and go to the bottom Properties, then Set Launch Options you can alter the startup command line.



I think when you use the shortcut on the desktop, it launches the Steam app according to what is set in that Steam Launcher line.. As far as I know anyway..

Good luck!

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#3985391 - 07/24/14 02:41 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Beach, I got it to work. I noticed when I installed the Blastcore mod in the directory, started her up, and noticed Blastcore in the Expansions directory of the game menu, it got me thinking about what is different about it's install versus the Apache one. So, went into the directory, add an @ symbol and made sure there was an addon sub folder within the 2 addons applied. I then cranked it up, went into the expansions menu and Voila! They were both there....now, an ethical dilemma about catching a cold between now and PT time....thank goodness the weekend cometh.

I am certain I will be back, as I did get some error message about Blastcore needing some other file, this time no CA_Water, but something about Extended Event Handler or other. More to follow.

Matt


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#3985393 - 07/24/14 02:43 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
No, the command line is actually set within the Steam menu. If you start up Steam, go to your Library, go to ARMA2 Operation Arrowhead, right click and go to the bottom Properties, then Set Launch Options you can alter the startup command line.



I think when you use the shortcut on the desktop, it launches the Steam app according to what is set in that Steam Launcher line.. As far as I know anyway..

Good luck!

BeachAV8R



Thanks Brother. I will give this a try tomorrow. Also, I noticed the other mods in your command line. Are they for the Apache as well, or just general mods to enhance the theater overall?


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#3985442 - 07/24/14 03:58 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: strykerpsg]  
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Originally Posted By: strykerpsg
Thanks Brother. I will give this a try tomorrow. Also, I noticed the other mods in your command line. Are they for the Apache as well, or just general mods to enhance the theater overall?


Pretty much just visual mods - BlastCore enhances (or probably "Hollywoodizes") some of the game explosions, smoke, stuff like that. CBA is a requirement for many mods including BlastCore.

The @gtmod was something I was experimenting with to try to change cockpits mid-flight, but I think it might only work with stock ARMA2 helicopters..not the AH-64D.

Then @clafghan is just a map/theater that replicates Afghanistan with sort of a Restrepo feel to it (but I haven't really found any missions that I can use with it yet..)

@C185 is a Cessna 185 mod that I never did get working for some reason. Can't figure that one out.

So all you really do need is the @AH64 or whatever you've named the Apache mod folder.

Regards,
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#3985684 - 07/24/14 11:54 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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#3986204 - 07/26/14 06:33 AM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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#3987049 - 07/28/14 11:50 AM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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Franze did but support has been discontinued because there is literally nothing we can do for the problems it faces.

#3988849 - 07/31/14 03:23 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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My favorite helo and my favorite AAR author. Beach we need moaaaaaaaaaaar! biggrin


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#3992636 - 08/08/14 02:56 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: SoupyC]  
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Originally Posted By: SoupyC
My favorite helo and my favorite AAR author. Beach we need moaaaaaaaaaaar! biggrin


Thanks for the comment. I'll be posting up more AARs shortly.

Also this post should be of interest to those looking to fly the AH-64 in Arma3: LINK!

From Nodunit:

"Decided to test the TKOH version Franze worked on into A3 with the inclusion of RTD on dev branch.

Turns out all of the flight characteristics tranferred flawlessly and the bird is back to her older self but even better.
To clarify the difference, the pivot point was raised and behind the main rotor which made the control all wonky and jerky whereas now the weight is actually central to the helicopter.

Thanks to the new FDM added we no longer have to use physX class which means no more sliding and a very strong possibility of not losing the modeltoworld features."


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#3992724 - 08/08/14 05:30 PM Re: Apache Diary [Re: BeachAV8R]  
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That's both unexpected and extremely interesting. I was fond of Franze & NodUnit's Apache, but at the point it had come out I had abandoned Arma 2 in favor of the general superiority of Arma 3, and never gave it the attention I otherwise would have.

If they find that FDM fixes the simulation class problems they were having, and they continue developing it for Arma 3, I think their it would be an excellent compliment for the upcoming Helicopters DLC. Now if we can just convince the 160th SOAR guys to FDM their upcoming blackhawks....

I wish them the best in whatever they choose copter


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