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#3985324 - 07/24/14 01:12 PM Teen attempting around the world flight crashes  
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#3985327 - 07/24/14 01:17 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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what was the purpose of his 'round the world' attempt in a Beech A36 Bonanza ? Oh, just read it ....raise money for schools


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#3985473 - 07/24/14 04:58 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Question for the pilots out there:

Obviously he had completed the training to get his pilots license but he just received it in June and soon after took off for the around the world trip on June 19th.

Even if you take the accident out of the story should he have been taking on such a trip at 17, just a week or so after getting his license? Should he have built up his hours and experience before attempting this? I also understand his father was also a pilot so would that have made the lack of experience moot in your opinion?

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#3985485 - 07/24/14 05:18 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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His father was the PIC if he was rated. The rest of the adventure is just fluff. Missguided fluff, but still fluff.

#3985491 - 07/24/14 05:33 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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I read your title as he was attempting 'around the flight crashes'. You're missing a comma.


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#3985495 - 07/24/14 05:41 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: David Kennard]  
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Originally Posted By: David Kennard
Question for the pilots out there:

Obviously he had completed the training to get his pilots license but he just received it in June and soon after took off for the around the world trip on June 19th.

Even if you take the accident out of the story should he have been taking on such a trip at 17, just a week or so after getting his license? Should he have built up his hours and experience before attempting this? I also understand his father was also a pilot so would that have made the lack of experience moot in your opinion?

Thanks



Flying a single engine plane over the ocean is risky, no matter how much experience you have. It's one thing to island hop in the Carribean. Another to fly over vast expanses of the Pacific like Hawaii to California.

As a pilot, I wouldn't attempt it and most other pilots I know would say that's a no go situation unless you are in a twin.

One common misconception is that water landings are safer then land. They aren't, even into trees.

#3985652 - 07/24/14 10:01 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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At least it wasn't a solo attempt, like those parents that let their teenage kid attempt sailing around the world.
It's unfortunate when doing something stupid, but goodhearted, turns deadly.


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#3985657 - 07/24/14 10:16 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
At least it wasn't a solo attempt, like those parents that let their teenage kid attempt sailing around the world.
It's unfortunate when doing something stupid, but goodhearted, turns deadly.



Why did you call it stupid? It was an adventure.

#3985675 - 07/24/14 11:21 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: piper]  
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Originally Posted By: piper
Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
At least it wasn't a solo attempt, like those parents that let their teenage kid attempt sailing around the world.
It's unfortunate when doing something stupid, but goodhearted, turns deadly.



Why did you call it stupid? It was an adventure.


Flying a small single engine plane across a large expanse of ocean simply for the adventure of it, is stupid, in my opinion.

A brand new, 17 year old pilot attempting it makes it even more stupid. The level of stupidity that this contributes to the situation depends on the experience level of his dad that was with him.

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#3985678 - 07/24/14 11:42 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: piper]  
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Originally Posted By: piper
Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
At least it wasn't a solo attempt, like those parents that let their teenage kid attempt sailing around the world.
It's unfortunate when doing something stupid, but goodhearted, turns deadly.



Why did you call it stupid? It was an adventure.



Going by Bonchie's post and my opinion on the matter. Adventure is good, but not if it's stupidly executed or stupidly chosen.
Seems to me this is akin to putting a kid with a brand new drivers license in a 200mph super car.

Like I said though, it's unfortunate they died. We all do stupid things, it sucks when you can't live to learn from the experience.


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#3985747 - 07/25/14 02:34 AM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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It was stupid because they crashed and died.

If they had of made it, then it would have been a grand adventure.

Example:

Nungesser was stupid to attempt to fly across the Atlantic Ocean, as he died in the attempt.

Lindberg was an audacious pilot and an adventurer, as he actually flew across the Atlantic Ocean.


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#3985764 - 07/25/14 03:19 AM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Yep Dart, funny how we love the successes, and despise the failures.
No matter the venture.......!

I guess it's just a human trait.

We seem to forget 'right and wrong', bravery or cowardice.

We just celebrate the winners, no matter who they pushed aside.
And despise the losers, no matter how noble they tried.

A sad commentary.


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#3985775 - 07/25/14 03:43 AM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Given all the single engine water crossing in such a trip, first thing that came to my mind was a BRS. That seems a better hope than trying to go in across the waves, if you've got to do it.


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#3986048 - 07/25/14 08:48 PM Re: Teen attempting around the world flight crashes [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted By: Raw Kryptonite
At least it wasn't a solo attempt, like those parents that let their teenage kid attempt sailing around the world.
It's unfortunate when doing something stupid, but goodhearted, turns deadly.


a kid from MIT just broke the record for youngest solo trip around the world in a plane.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/01/travel/teen-attempts-global-flight/


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