Don't know if this article was posted here??.
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/dont-th...or-8dd9e323ed12

Russians hint on same circumstances as were on Tu-154 incident. (starting from 15:00)
Lies or possibility?

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Politics please aside,
Just curious could buk missile cw monopulse seeker behave same as in Tu-154 incident on certain circumstances.

Well the Russians is not leading the investigation. Putin MUST stop supplying advanced weapons to the terrorists. Anyway you look at this all the blood is on Putin's hands.

So they're saying it wasn't shot down by a SAM? (After that incident, the Russians vehemently denied that it was even possible for a SAM to be the cause of the crash until the Ukrainian government admitted it was an errant SAM).

It's a lie. In '01 it was a matter of a SAM launched at a target drone which was destroyed before it got there, and then locked on to the airliner by mistake. I seriously doubt that the Ukrainian military would A, do that again, or B, all of a sudden do these sort of training drills over something that is an active war zone, close to the border of Russia, and over inhabited major urban centers. Just one of those factors would mean it'd never get clearance.

It's obvious. Who's the only people in that region who's been shooting down everything they can for the last few weeks? Probably those guys.

Hmmm...
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/1d6a9ac2-10e3-11e4-b116-00144feabdc0.html

more...

http://mashable.com/2014/07/21/mh17-shrapnel-damage-missile-strike/

+1

In this community, everybody knows, that since the '70s pre-perforated warheads is used in Soviet SAM systems.

Measuring the diameter the hole of the shrapnel could identify the missile type...
... as it did at Siberia Airlines Flight 1812.

The Real Tough Stuff, from Northern Italy...

Very nice picture

By the way, do you still want to simulate it in the future?

I would need better pictures, than I was able to shot few days ago...

There are some videos from an american museum in youtube. Probably it is worthy to contact those guys and they will help with more pictures and order of procedures.

Some Iron Dome critics:

http://thebulletin.org/multimedia/iron-dome-images-failure

Due to the missing K4 command (introduced at the Volhov) transmitting the missile/target approach speed, the Iron Dome missile's laser proximity fuse does not have a clue for correct warhead detonation delay.

Anyway, it is hard to knock off small tubes from the sky with shrapnel, without using nukes...

It's quite a mystery which kind of proximity fuse Iron Dome's Tamir missile is using. On some photos, there's no slightest sign of laser sensors on a missile...





...On the other hand, this photo, which supposedly shows part of Tamir, clearly shows laser sensors and a homing head:


In any case, use of laser proximity fuse in a missile designed for engaging such targets as small rockets is surprising, to say the least: the small object may simply fell between the two narrow laser beams.

Even its guidance principle is a mystery: Upper photo clearly shows some kind of homing head (supposedly an active one, but how can one manage to fit an ARH head into the $50000 missile?!), but the photo below doesn't leave much room inside the nosecone for it:

I know nothing about laser proximity fuses. But as a guess, surely it's possible that a laser fuse could be sending out light in a fan shaped pattern, and not a bunch of thin beams?

Probably, but I never heard about it. I know that Russians were forced to replace laser fuse with RF on 9M311 missile (used in Tunguska and naval Kortik) to improve its efficiency against small-sized targets.

Some fun:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/08/air-defense-friendly-fire/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A%20Trending%20Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=Twitter#!bpFUjy