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#3984440 - 07/22/14 02:46 PM Falcon BMS  
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Not bad for a game released in 1998... wink






"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

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#3984441 - 07/22/14 02:47 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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#3984506 - 07/22/14 05:01 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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for a 1998 title I find the graphics to be quite poor to be honest wink

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#3984628 - 07/22/14 09:45 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Wow!!! thumbsup

#3984629 - 07/22/14 09:48 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Holy cow! That's still a good looking sim.

#3984655 - 07/22/14 10:41 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Nice!

Using any Mods on top of BMS?


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#3984675 - 07/22/14 11:30 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
Nice!

Using any Mods on top of BMS?


Yes. IIRC Tom's terrain, new clouds and a tweaked ENBseries mod.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#3984911 - 07/23/14 03:22 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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didnt Benchmark Sims Completely replace the Graphics Engine?


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#3984914 - 07/23/14 03:31 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Pretty much. For starters it's now based on DX9 instead of DX7 on release.

yep


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#3984923 - 07/23/14 04:06 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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that's what I thought,

TBH, BMS Falcon isnt even the same sim.

GFX Engine has been replaced, F-16 models, several AI Models, Flight Models, AI Routines, etc etc.

Outside of parts of the source code and a small % of Art Assets (3d Models, textures) and the requirement for a Falcon4 Disc, it's not even Falcon 4.0 anymore, its an entirely different sim.


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#3984924 - 07/23/14 04:09 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Very nice. I haven't kept up the past couple years..but I was really impressed with BMS 4.32 - those 3D cockpits, lighting, and shadows in the cockpits were excellent..





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#3984925 - 07/23/14 04:11 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
that's what I thought,

TBH, BMS Falcon isnt even the same sim.

GFX Engine has been replaced, F-16 models, several AI Models, Flight Models, AI Routines, etc etc.

Outside of parts of the source code and a small % of Art Assets (3d Models, textures) and the requirement for a Falcon4 Disc, it's not even Falcon 4.0 anymore, its an entirely different sim.


That's why I put the smiley behind my comment regarding the 1998 release.


I though it was pretty much self-evident that BMS has fundamentally changed the original, 16 year old game. wink


And a few more shots from a campaign missions:










Last edited by Para_Bellum; 07/23/14 04:15 PM.

"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#3984927 - 07/23/14 04:15 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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the Sub layers Texture Setup on the MFCDs alone is the best I've ever seen those displays in a SIM.


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#3984989 - 07/23/14 06:10 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
Pretty much. For starters it's now based on DX9 instead of DX7 on release.

yep



I never understood why the original Falcon was so ugly, when DirectX7 is capable of this...



...and this 14 year-old demo (see YT comments) runs smooth as silk on my 1.0GHz 256MB Integrated Graphics.


But anyway, the new shots look great! Not quite DCS MiG-21 but I love the dusk/dawn/nighttime shots I'm seeing with both sims.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#3985008 - 07/23/14 06:41 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted By: MarkG


I never understood why the original Falcon was so ugly, when DirectX7 is capable of this...



...and this 14 year-old demo (see YT comments) runs smooth as silk on my 1.0GHz 256MB Integrated Graphics.


You really compare a grafics demo with a project like Falcon 4.0?

dizzy

I always thought the F4 looked pretty good compared to e.g. European Air War or Combat Flight Simulator. Or FS 98.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#3985020 - 07/23/14 06:59 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Eurofighter Typhoon (also DX7) has its moments.

Even EF2000 occasionally makes me take notice considering it's 640x400 and not even hardware accelerated. A very artistic use of 256 colors!

If you keep the lights off (dusk-to-dawn) the original Falcon 4 looks pretty good to me though, the pit and airfield lighting. The daytime skyfix (blue vs. pee-yellow) and Paul Wilson's 1024x768 pit also help.

I also like Jane's F/A-18's dusk-to-dawn (also DX7?) better than Falcon 4.


EDIT: TAW (DirectX 5.2, 800x600 8-bit CLUTs), a little too pink and purple at times but DID had some pretty good artists. What DX was Jane's USAF? WWII Fighters? Nice looking sims.

Last edited by MarkG; 07/23/14 07:21 PM.


The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#3985035 - 07/23/14 07:24 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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As mentioned in my edit above, Jane's WWII Fighters. Now that's pretty graphics!



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#3985052 - 07/23/14 07:56 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Still without competition or worthy successor after all these years...

#3985160 - 07/23/14 11:54 PM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: CTR69]  
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Originally Posted By: CTR69
Still without competition or worthy successor after all these years...


Can I hear an Amen? Love this sim and what the folks at BMS have done with it over the years.

Where would we be without the after-market modders/dev/artists? Think BMS, Team Fusion, BDG, and the world that TK let folks play in,
and all the folks making Oleg's masterpiece better.

ps and you too Mark, I just can't play because I purchased SEF2000 instead of the original. Shame that.

#3985183 - 07/24/14 12:50 AM Re: Falcon BMS [Re: Para_Bellum]  
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Most of the appeal of EF2000 to me is the map and scenario, including the entire Scandinavian peninsula and a huge chunk of Russia (including Murmansk and St. Petersburg).

Imagine F4 meets EF2000... smile




And as with EF2000 with the Russians marching south I'll be wondering, is Sweden going to join NATO and help me out?

DID had a way with good gameplay. I could trade the Eurofighter for an F-16, even making it Soviet/Cold War.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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