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#3980381 - 07/13/14 02:55 PM Default Trackir center?  
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Just wondering if this is normal, whenever I center my Trackir in the cockpit, it seems like the default angle is wayy too high, as in the bottom of the screen starts at the ICP and the HUD is very low on my screen, and I can't see the MFDs at all without looking down. Is there a way to change this? Also seems like the view is pretty far back.

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#3980556 - 07/14/14 12:20 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Tilt your head back about 3 degrees and push F12. Should give you the view your looking for...if it's not quite right, just play around with it until you have what you want. Easiest workaround IMO.


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#3980558 - 07/14/14 12:26 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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I don't know which flavor of F4 you may be using, but from memory that sounds correct for the default view. If the version of F4 features a 6DOF cockpit, you can alter your view (move your TIR hat/mic sensor) by zooming in and out, or moving up and down to offset where the camera sees you and then press the center keystroke. You would need to do this every time you restart the sim, as there is no way to save an offset that I know of.


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#3980568 - 07/14/14 01:08 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Yeah that's what I have been doing, gets super annoying though and I was wondering if there was a more robust solution sigh

#3980621 - 07/14/14 07:40 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Which version of Falcon are you running?


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#3980669 - 07/14/14 12:20 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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#3980682 - 07/14/14 12:59 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Originally Posted By: Triple111
Just wondering if this is normal, whenever I center my Trackir in the cockpit, it seems like the default angle is wayy too high, as in the bottom of the screen starts at the ICP and the HUD is very low on my screen, and I can't see the MFDs at all without looking down. Is there a way to change this? Also seems like the view is pretty far back.


Are you playing with multiple monitors? IIRC the default view (single monitor) should have the HUD at the center of your screen with the ICP in view and maybe the top 1/3rd of the MFD display in view as well, depending on your FOV.


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#3980890 - 07/14/14 08:06 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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I was using multiple monitors, tried disabling one but no luck frown

#3981074 - 07/15/14 04:19 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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It's the nature of the view center that it is what it is, track ir or not. Neither one has a variable zero point that I know of so "miscalibration" is the only method. Still I don't adjust TrackIR more than 1-2 per flight. I feel something is wrong with your setup or usage if you have to recenter more often than that.

#3981406 - 07/15/14 10:31 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Originally Posted By: Triple111
I was using multiple monitors, tried disabling one but no luck frown


I have no idea what you just said there.


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#3981525 - 07/16/14 03:18 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice

I have no idea what you just said there.


I was using two monitors next to each other. From your suggestion, I disabled one of the monitors, to see if the view would revert to the viewpoint you described. Unfortunately, it did not work, and judging by the other replies its just how BMS is coded. Thanks for the help!

#3981912 - 07/16/14 09:16 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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A screenshot of the problem you are describing would go a long way......


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#3982368 - 07/17/14 07:21 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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It would be really nice for TrackIR to have a "center offset" feature for the profile so you can center to something other than (0,0,0,0,0,0) coordinates (hehe, 6 DoF) when you press the center key.

#3982493 - 07/17/14 11:26 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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I agree! Or for BMS to have a "raise/lower chair" feature like DCS A10C.


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#3982536 - 07/18/14 01:39 AM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
I agree! Or for BMS to have a "raise/lower chair" feature like DCS A10C.
Thats a thing!?! That would fit in so well without breaking immersion

#3982922 - 07/18/14 09:02 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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Is the seat in the F-16 height adjustable?

#3982933 - 07/18/14 09:18 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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It is. Pilots have to adjust it for their physique so their head (eyes more precisely) is at a certain exact spot ("design eye" position). That's so they can see the HUD symbology, and there's a HUD test pattern that helps them do exactly that.

But anyway, I don't think any of that would help with OP's issue. As I understood it, he wants to have the center angled in a different direction, not positioned in a different point in space. The latter would probably cause you to not be able to see the full HUD symbology in BMS as well, depending on how far from design eye you moved (can't remember what effect the seat up/down has on the HUD in DCS). The former problem is one I also had when I used to fly with a TIR, the only solution I found was the one already mentioned, ie, look slightly up, center TIR and you're set. I rarely if ever had to recenter the TIR mid-flight.

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#3982954 - 07/18/14 10:35 PM Re: Default Trackir center? [Re: Triple111]  
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LOL, yeah. Adjusting TrackIR to your preference is part of the pre-flight checks now.


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