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#3952656 - 05/12/14 05:31 PM helllllp , a10c Bombs  
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I need some help guys please,
I'm trying to get my CCRP bombing runs sorted, but am having some trouble which is really pissing me off, I've watched countless vids on youtube, I've done the tutorial countless times and still I can't get it off.

the problem is I can't seem to get the azimuth steering line,I'm actually trying to do this while I'm looking at the manual on my pad and it still won't show,
I've moved the TDC over the TGT and pressed TMS fwd short to get, then TMS fwd long to get SPI which should give me my azimuth line, but I get nothing.
I've re loaded my stick / throttle and the HOTAS settings are as they should be.

I've gone into profile settings etc and made sure I am set to CCRP ,I'm obviously missing something but I'm buggered if I know what,
Any pilots out there that can give me a clue please

Appreciated

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#3952661 - 05/12/14 05:40 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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This would be way easier to diagnose with a track file biggrin

You're starting from an air start I presume? That way you can rule out a lot of silly startup issues. All the stupid little things like master arm, laser arm, etc are on?


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#3952666 - 05/12/14 05:56 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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Ensure you've got adequate run in. The steering ling will be below the horizon line if you're too close. Also you're not getting a CCRP invalid warning right? What types of bombs are you dropping (LGB's, JDAMS, general iron bombs, etc.)?

-Jenrick

#3952715 - 05/12/14 08:11 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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I'm with Peally... sounds like Master Arm- or flaps or refuelling door...

Something to do with another activity in the same mission perhaps?

#3952883 - 05/13/14 08:45 AM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: Peally]  
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Rgr that Peally,

it's the easy ' East Goergia instant battle' I'm using it as a training ground to get my weapon skills sorted,I'm trying to use all of my inventory on the different Tgt's
When I get to Bridge wp4, I want to use the GBU's using 5mil CCRP release mode,you have to use this mode because it tells you on the HUD, but I can't get the azimuth steering line,
The PBL is there, I give myself plenty of run in to get lined up so I'm not faffing around,I then press TMS fwd long to set SPI, but no ASL,
it's BUGGING the #%&*$# out of me


Thanks for reading and replying

#3952925 - 05/13/14 12:52 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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I probably won't have time tonight to take a whack at the mission, but if no one else comes up with a reply I'll run through it tomorrow.

The best thing to do would be recording a track as you fly the mission so we can watch exactly what's happening. That way when the issues pops up we can hit "take control" and see if we can get it to work.


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#3952948 - 05/13/14 01:30 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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I guess my question is whether or not you're modifying your profiles correctly since there is a way to do it for the weapon type, then another way to do it for that specific weapon on the station that- if memory serves- isn't saved if you scroll through another weapon. You say you like to use a variety of weapon types on different targets. Makes me wonder if you set up a profile on a specific station, then scroll to set up the next station and the profile is forgotten. It then reverts back to the standard profile which would be CCIP.

This wouldn't explain the complete absence of a PBIL- so not sure if it's the issue but might be contributing.

Something else I've encountered are times I need to scroll through the HUD settings once in order for the profile to take effect- or for the system to dial in properly. In your situation if it isn't working when you drum up your CCRP with the particular weapon then cycle through the HUD settings once (go through NAV / GUN / CCIP / CCRP). Sometimes this can bring the system around as desired. I think it's more of a bug- but it's tough to replicate. I've had the same issue you're describing and cycling the HUD is my go-to solution.


EDIT: I'm thinking about this again- if you placed the TGP on the target area and generated SPI from that, does it work?

#3952954 - 05/13/14 01:42 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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Eno you touched on something else that may be the issue. You're right, depending on how you choose your stations it may force CCIP mode by default.


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#3952974 - 05/13/14 02:23 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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Guys,

Youv'e all been incredibly good to post reply's and help me out, I have just watched a utube vid on how to use the GBU 38 (JDM) & GBU 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFv1LFQI7bg and I've now got it, it's nothing to do with the ASL or PBL, it's knowing your weapons and I have been a complete plonker.
I've been wanting an ASL to line up with the PBL,
on this particular weapon you know that your waiting for the 2 inner triangles to move inside the reticule and concentrate on keeping the pipper on the PBL, you then get Man Release on the HUD and hold down the weapon release I was getting totally confused with CCIP CR , CCRP etc etc,
Thankyou for all your help


klmf

#3952976 - 05/13/14 02:27 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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Good to hear biggrin


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Mulder: *throws her a file* Ever heard of the knife alien?
#3953048 - 05/13/14 05:45 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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CCRP IAM (inertially-aided munition) mode has no ASL (azimuth steering line) because the release window is so large. It's still CCRP at heart but with extra programming for JDAM/WCMD so 95% of the same rules and symbols apply.

#3953189 - 05/13/14 11:14 PM Re: helllllp , a10c Bombs [Re: evoblade]  
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As soon as I saw that mention of the triangles it hit me... of course. I drop 38s all the time... not sure how I forgot.

Though recently I've been favouring the 12s since many of the targets are moving or start moving in disperse once one of the group is hit... 12s still use the countdown-


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