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#3948884 - 05/04/14 01:53 PM buying an A10C setup  
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hello all

i have around £2000 to buy a complete A10C setup

i was just wondering if anyone has any ideas where would be best to buy it, this also includes me having to buy a pc so if anyone has any input on what sort of pc i should buy and what specs are required for the game to run smoothly that would be greatly appreciated.

thanks very much in advance smile
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#3948911 - 05/04/14 03:39 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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If you had 20x the amount of money you could purchase this http://dcscockpit.com/ hahaha

What do you mean by a complete set up? PC, Controls, screen, trackIR, Desk, chair even?


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#3948916 - 05/04/14 03:59 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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I don't know UK PC prices but I think ~900-1200 GBP should do.

For equipment there is no limit to how complete it can be with 100x your budget so prioritize.
1. Joystick: Saitek X-52 Pro or X-55 (£120?) or Thrustmaster Warthog (£275!)
2. Track IR5 (£90?)
3. CH or Saitek pedals (£75?)
4. Maybe 3x monitors?

I have an i5 2500K and AMD Radeon 7800 and it runs good/OK. CPU and CPU core speed (it is an older engine and doesn't use many slow cores well) are the biggest factors.

#3948924 - 05/04/14 04:10 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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PC-wise, you're going to want to get something with a little beef in it: not just to play the games now, but also to support future software updates. No need to go all crazy with black processors or wicked fast overclocking, but get something hot.

A 64-bit operating system with 6GB of RAM. Windows 7, if you can get it, otherwise Windows 8 is probably going to be OK.

Although not strictly part of your PC setup, a good high-speed internet is also another highly recommended "option". In addition to making multiplayer play possible, updates to DCS World (including modules like the A-10C) are pushed over the internet and slow connections will ruin your day.


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#3948936 - 05/04/14 05:07 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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Originally Posted By: EinsteinEP


A 64-bit operating system with 8+ GB of RAM. Windows 7, if you can get it, otherwise Windows 8 is probably going to be OK.



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#3949383 - 05/05/14 06:38 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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do you think this computer would be able to handle it ?? i dont want to buy a computer for it to be a waste and not support it. if this one isnt recommended then could you please post a link of a computer that would be suitable??

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JS2S9QI/re...SSN0X&psc=1


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#3949388 - 05/05/14 06:54 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: Fudge93]  
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yeah i have to buy the whole lot pretty much including the chair and desk but i really am struggling to find a decent desk that looks like it could support the needs of the setup


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#3949419 - 05/05/14 07:29 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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As for RAM, I fly with 6GBs of RAM, but this is another case where more is always better.

As for that VIBOX setup, it looks decent overall. The R7 250X looks like a decent mid-range card and should support DCS World. There are better cards out there, but for more money: if you went with this gear, I'd recommend you put a GPU upgrade on your wishlist for a year or so out. The mobo seems mid-range as well, based on price, but I don't know much about AMD processor setups, so I can't talk much to it. It comes with 16GB of RAM which is nice. A mobo upgrade is a bit more of a commitment (usually need new processor/RAM to go with it), so this will limit the future life of this box, but if you're not into building your own, this would be a decent first step.

As for your desk, you don't really need anything special. I've got a corner desk that has a built in monitor stand and an under-desk keyboard drawer. I can put whatever HOTAS (X-52pro or Warthog) on the top of the desk and still get to my keyboard with more than enough room top for the MFDs, my gaming mouse-pad, and notepaper/checklists. When I fly FSX I put the HOTASes on a shelf and clamp my yoke to the front of the desk and throttle quadrant to the side. Very flexible. I envy folks who have fancy cockpits or gaming chairs, but my gaming setup doubles as my home work "office", so I actually prefer the flexibility. I think you'll find that your gaming setup will be very personalized to you.


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#3949441 - 05/05/14 08:01 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: EinsteinEP]  
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thanks very much for the advice, it means a lot, as you may well have noticed i dont actually know that much about computers hence why i cant build my own, at the moment im going to order the computer, the thrust master joystick and throttle aswell as the Saitek combat rudder pedals, do you use the thrustmaster MFD's and track IR ?? i think im going to buy track ir because it seems a lot easier to use that than manually pan around the cockpit, sorry for asking loads of questins but is it easy to set up 3 monitors for the game and what size would you recommend ??

thanks very much in advance


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#3949587 - 05/06/14 02:26 AM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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TrackIR is very good and it is good for lots of games. I recommend it and if you don't like it people are happy to buy it used for a small price reduction so it is safe to buy.

I don't have MFD and I don't care to. If you want "real MFD" then you need the plastic frame+button controller but there is no screen inside of them. Then if you want a screen inside you need another display to put the frames over and then use Helios to export and... what a pain. I guess it's good if you do everything but even then there are two, one on screen and one physical controller.

For monitors I have 3x 24" 1920x1080 which is very wide but works well. Maybe vertical orientation (1080x1920) is better, more "square" for all three For nVidia or AMD support you must have all monitors the same resolution or it looks terrible. Mixed resolution you need shareware software like SoftTH which is a pain.

#3949867 - 05/06/14 05:21 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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thanks very much for your help guys

i have taken all the information on board that has been said, thanks for being understanding that i dont really know much about all this but i am eager to get going with the A10C, i am sure i will have more questions down the line when the equipment starts arriving.

cheers for the help guys smile


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#3949947 - 05/06/14 07:37 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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Once you get your configuration going, go find the Firehouse or Hollo Point thread and join in the fun!


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#3951993 - 05/10/14 11:17 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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hello again, what exactly is the firehouse or hollo point thread ??


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#3952028 - 05/11/14 12:58 AM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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http://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3685928/Crew's_Hollo_Pointe_server_lou#Post3685928

#3952030 - 05/11/14 01:00 AM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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If you have problems copying that for some reason, just look in the DCS World thread. It is usually close to the top of the recent posts..

#3958737 - 05/27/14 02:52 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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It's been a few weeks. Did you get your set up, if so how are you finding it?


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#3959731 - 05/29/14 07:40 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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Why has no-one mentioned anything about the rig that 'RyanGerrard91' posted?

That system has about £400 worth of hardware in it and selling at £700!! The R7 240 graphics card is just about capable of playing films on a DVD, it can't reach 30fps in any game at 1680x1050 at medium settings! For DCS/A10C it would be absolutely unplayable.

I'd be more inclined to look at the systems at overclockers.co.uk as a start point, something roughly in the same budget but add a decent graphics card that will be good for the next few years. Something like this:

AMD based system - £615 inc VAT and then swap the graphics card out for a GTX 780 for an additional £150.

There are also other options such as better gaming CPU's from Intel depending on how much of the budget is left over. A 24" 1920x1080p monitor can be found on the same site or ebuyer for less than £100.


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#3962618 - 06/04/14 01:34 PM Re: buying an A10C setup [Re: RyanGerrard91]  
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@RyanGerrard91: If it's not too late yet I strongly suggest to speak with someone who can help you build your own computer. It will be cheaper and you'll have exactly the components that you need. Paradaz in the post above is right: paying too much with a gfx card that won't run DCS A10C smoothly.

Recommendations:

CPU: an Intel Core I5 or I7, depending on how much you want to spend; I woulnd't go for AMD here
Harddisk: An SSD for Windows and applications/games (Samsung 840 EVO / Crucial M550 are highy recommended)
Graphics: Nvidia GTX 770 or GTX 780 (if you have the money) / AMD 7970 or R9-series (if you have the money)
RAM: 8GB, brand or speed doesn't matter that much
Display: Any decent 24 inch at 1920x1080p will do. I like Samsung screens, especially the ones with an IPS-panel, but a regular TN-panel will do if money is an issue.

For building a complete system you will also need: case, power supply, cpu cooler, keyboard, mouse. And of course the hardware for flying: HOTAS, Track IR.

Hope this helps. But again, talk to someone who knows about this stuff. If you've never built your own computer you don't want to do this all on your own.

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