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#3943879 - 04/24/14 03:19 PM Installed ssd, low memory issue  
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Installed an ssd, samsung 840 evo 250 gb. Clean win 7 32 bit install, running the samsung magician in max perf mode, ahci enabled, all drivers updated, all win updates..have not plugged the hdd's back in yet.

It runs like magic, like a 50 year old found the fountain of youth..but, when playing Dayz i keep getting low memory issues which leads to a ctd with the windows low memory issue pop up. Never had this before on my old hdd's.

Same system. win 7 32, i5, gtx560ti, sata II board,(so only utilising 3gb/s not the full 6gb/s) 4gb ram. I am running the 3g switch, all non essential services off, windows in gaming mode..no aero etc and i have gone through every SSD guide i can find and scanned plenty of hardware forums but no joy as everything seems set as per how it should be. Disabled, enabled, let windows manage and set a custom page file (1024/1024..1024/2048 and 1024/3072) but still the low memory issue. When i use Samsung magician with its performance mode activated it defaults the page file to let windows manage it.

The texture loading in games is awesomely fast and stutters and pauses i was getting with some are gone, i can up my settings to max in Arma and Dayz and it is fluid and very nice now..miles away from how it was on my hdd. Sometimes i can play for an hour or so when other times it crashes once i enter game..seems random, but it will always crash, sometimes five or six times in an hour or less with the low memory pop up.

Last time i saw the low memory issue was when clod was released and after activating the 3g switch i never saw the issue again, so with a clean install and the first crash it was one of the first things i tried.

Any ideas on something i am missing here ?





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#3944130 - 04/24/14 09:44 PM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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I installed EVO SSD a few months back. So, I barely remember. However, when installing, I had simply used the Samsung app to port over my Windows 8 installation.

When Windows 7 installs, it sets aside a 100MB section of disk for "system" stuff. If one installs Windows 8 over Windows 7 (like I did) it uses the same 100MB partition. However, a fresh Windows 8 install sets aside 350MB. NOT having 350MB caused me a problem using the SSD and I had to do a fresh Windows 8 install to get it to set aside a 350MB partition. I don't remember more.

The above does not seem to be your issue at all. Yet, it was for me. And, it was not obvious. So, I bring it up for what little its worth.


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#3944193 - 04/25/14 12:52 AM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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I decided a clean install was the only way, i didn't want any old clutter anywhere near my new ssd as i have not had a clean install for longer than a year, cheers anyway Allen.


Out of interest these were the two main pages i used when setting up my ssd and pagefile.

Pagefile done right !

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#3944257 - 04/25/14 03:26 AM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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4GB (and only 3.5 Usable) of memory and Win 7 Pro is your problem.

Win 7 Pro will use alot more memory for things a normal gamer/home user will never need,

You can try to turn services (ie BitLocker/Drive Encryption etc) off,

But in the End run, 4GB for a Pro O/S + Gaming is a bottle neck.


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#3944305 - 04/25/14 06:31 AM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Originally Posted By: SkateZilla
4GB (and only 3.5 Usable) of memory and Win 7 Pro is your problem.

Win 7 Pro will use alot more memory for things a normal gamer/home user will never need,

You can try to turn services (ie BitLocker/Drive Encryption etc) off,

But in the End run, 4GB for a Pro O/S + Gaming is a bottle neck.


How does that explain that i have been playing games and only ever seen the issue once before with clod many years back and that i have never seen this issue since then until i installed the ssd ? Is it an ssd memory usage thing ? I simply do not understand how with my four year old green wd hdd i had no issue, now with an ssd i do smile

Also, apparently i do not have bitlocker on my version of windows smile WIN 7 Pro Bit locker I searched and could not find it anywhere either. There is an Encrypting File Service but it is already disabled smile


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#3944412 - 04/25/14 02:03 PM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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If you installed a fresh install, chances are there are services running by default you dont need, and you prolly had them disabled when you ran from the other drive.

Go through the services and disable the advanced services you dont need.

You're using about 1GB at idle.... which leaves about 2 GB for other applications use.

For Comparison My Windows 7 Ultimate Idles at 750MB Used.

You can try to increase page file size to 3x your ram (so about 9 GB).


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#3944740 - 04/26/14 04:17 AM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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I am down to 735-50 when at desktop (i don't think i can trim any more services tbh) Firefox uses about 300 meg, and i moved my pagefile to my HDD but it is still windows managed size when using samsung magician.

Might play with it manually a bit more smile

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#3946015 - 04/28/14 08:18 PM Re: Installed ssd, low memory issue [Re: Ajay]  
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Out of curiosity, while having the opportunity to reinstall the OS why did you choose the 32-bit option ?

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