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#3942350 - 04/21/14 12:36 PM My son took this photo yesterday...  
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Ok, there is an old abandoned building up here near to Darlington that was built in 1900 as an orphanage then turned into a Borstal until 1984. It was a horrific place with lots of violent sexual and physical abuse and it now stands derelict since '84 and they won't tear it down. People say the government won't because they are afraid of what remains they will find buried beneath there as lots of the children disappeared and was covered up.

Here's a video of it:



Anyway, my son and his friends (they are all 15) have discovered it and it's become the place to dare to go to even though it's 10 miles away and they all have BMX bikes setup with the seat so low it's useless and no brakes, kids lol

I warned him off saying it's dangerous and illegal to go in knowing full well he would as I did exactly the same at his age smile He came back yesterday and at he told me and had been taking photos on his phone and doing a panorama of the building and only later last night did he come to me, looking quite white, and showed me this photo:




That was the second or third floor which they can't get to and it looks like a figure there... Pretty freaky and gave him a real scare that he believes something was there watching them.


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#3942358 - 04/21/14 12:55 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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Is he going back for another visit?


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#3942362 - 04/21/14 12:56 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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#3942363 - 04/21/14 12:57 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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Says not but I bet they will. I was the same with an old farmhouse near me when I was a kid but we used to go in at night and scare ourselves, dangerous but fun.


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#3942365 - 04/21/14 12:58 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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I had to look up "borstal". You learn something new every day on SimHQ. smile


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#3942366 - 04/21/14 12:58 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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I suggest he goes back tonight and has another look yep

I thought it looked more like Darth Vader to me.


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#3942370 - 04/21/14 01:04 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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#3942384 - 04/21/14 01:34 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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More a case of a vaguely human looking silhouette in the window of an old creepy building... your mind fills in the blanks.

Honestly doesn't look like much to me.


As for the local authority being too scared to pull it down because they might find dead kids buried there....

Local government... not exactly the most efficient or smart of people. See yesterday's news stories about local councils across the UK with substantial art collections locked away gathering dust. I'd bet concerns like asbestos in the building mean they'd rather just do nothing than have to spend the considerable amount of money required to pull the place down and make the site safe. I think there's quite a lot of sites just like this all over the country, abandoned derelict buildings that were owned by government bodies and no longer in use.

As for the authorities not wanting people to go in there.... well it's private property for a start. Then consider it's an old building, likely in a poor state of repair. If someone (i.e. a kid) gets hurt on the site because a wall collapsed on them or something then there would be very bad press for the local authorities and you can bet the kid's parents would try and sue the arse out of the local council.

#3942385 - 04/21/14 01:35 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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Doesn't look like anything to me?

#3942388 - 04/21/14 01:42 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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It's a digital photo (taken with a phone). There are bound to be compression artifacts, especially when you blow up the photo.

The really creepy part is that the hole in the window is shaped like....
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...an Easter bunny!!! dum-dum-duuuuuuum!


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#3942412 - 04/21/14 02:46 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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We had this place:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bjacques/sets/72157617599276541/

http://ididitforjodie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/thelistmansion.jpg

http://wonderland1981.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/the-todville-mansion-seabrook-texas-usa/

http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php?topic=6963.0

http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?18099-The-List-Mansion-Murder-Bill-List

I and a few friends snuck in one night in the early 90's and we spent the night there exploring every room of that 34,000 square feet massive home.

Nothing happened.

We were so disappointed.

Funny part about that night was we brought our guns.

Thinking back now, what were we going to do if we did see a ghost?

Shoot it?

Place was later tore down and it's now a neighborhood of luxury homes.

I forgotten about the place until I saw a news story on it on FOX 26 Houston by news reporter Carolyn Canville in the City Under Siege segment and I emailed her.

This was her email reply:


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Hi James,

My News Director forwarded your email to me regarding the place once known as "Murder Mansion" in Seabrook...

I've done several stories on "Murder Mansion." It got its name after the eccentric millionnaire, Bill List, who had the place built, was murdered there in 1984 by some young guys who were staying with him.

Rumours were that these young guys were being held against their will... The one I interviewed, known as "Smiley", said that wasn't true for him. To him, the place was more of a party palace, drugs, booze, you name it. But he says two of the others were apparently treated as sort of "sex slaves." And once Smiley was told about some of the acts the two had allegedly been forced to perform for List-- he says, that's what sparked the murder plot.

For several years after List was murdered, the mansion remained... as did rumours that it was haunted.

The last story I did was in 2003... looking back on the murder, interviewing "Smiley" in prison,-- and revealing what has replaced the mansion since it was finally torn down: Luxury waterfront villas.

So there you have it. No more mansion, I'm afraid. And the residents of these new luxury homes have reported no sightings of apparitions....

Good luck in your research!

Carolyn Canville
Investigative Reporter
KRIV-TV, Fox 26


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#3942413 - 04/21/14 02:48 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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#3942415 - 04/21/14 02:52 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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Somehow I find abandoned dark creepy old buildings fascinating.


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#3942417 - 04/21/14 02:58 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: ColJamesD]  
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Originally Posted By: ColJamesD
Somehow I find abandoned dark creepy old buildings fascinating.
So do most people on the internet hence the high number of websites and blogs dedicated to the subject. wink


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#3942419 - 04/21/14 02:59 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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I dont see anything in the picture

#3942477 - 04/21/14 04:30 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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It looks to me like a cardboard cutout of someone cosplaying as Garrett but wearing a Lone Ranger mask as well leaning against the window.

You know, even as a little kid, I was never scared of cardboard cutouts. Never heard of a possessed one, either.




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#3942503 - 04/21/14 04:58 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: ColJamesD]  
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Originally Posted By: ColJamesD
We had this place:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bjacques/sets/72157617599276541/

http://ididitforjodie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/thelistmansion.jpg

http://wonderland1981.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/the-todville-mansion-seabrook-texas-usa/

http://www.monstrous.com/forum/index.php?topic=6963.0

http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?18099-The-List-Mansion-Murder-Bill-List

I and a few friends snuck in one night in the early 90's and we spent the night there exploring every room of that 34,000 square feet massive home.

Nothing happened.

We were so disappointed.

Funny part about that night was we brought our guns.

Thinking back now, what were we going to do if we did see a ghost?

Shoot it?

Place was later tore down and it's now a neighborhood of luxury homes.

I forgotten about the place until I saw a news story on it on FOX 26 Houston by news reporter Carolyn Canville in the City Under Siege segment and I emailed her.

This was her email reply:


Quote:
Hi James,

My News Director forwarded your email to me regarding the place once known as "Murder Mansion" in Seabrook...

I've done several stories on "Murder Mansion." It got its name after the eccentric millionnaire, Bill List, who had the place built, was murdered there in 1984 by some young guys who were staying with him.

Rumours were that these young guys were being held against their will... The one I interviewed, known as "Smiley", said that wasn't true for him. To him, the place was more of a party palace, drugs, booze, you name it. But he says two of the others were apparently treated as sort of "sex slaves." And once Smiley was told about some of the acts the two had allegedly been forced to perform for List-- he says, that's what sparked the murder plot.

For several years after List was murdered, the mansion remained... as did rumours that it was haunted.

The last story I did was in 2003... looking back on the murder, interviewing "Smiley" in prison,-- and revealing what has replaced the mansion since it was finally torn down: Luxury waterfront villas.

So there you have it. No more mansion, I'm afraid. And the residents of these new luxury homes have reported no sightings of apparitions....

Good luck in your research!

Carolyn Canville
Investigative Reporter
KRIV-TV, Fox 26


That is an ugly house, looks more like a prison.


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#3942506 - 04/21/14 05:02 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Heh, the Discovery Channel could make an hour long 'documentary' just using that picture...


Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I had to look up "borstal". You learn something new every day on SimHQ. smile
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#3942518 - 04/21/14 05:17 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: mikew]  
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Originally Posted By: mikew

Check out the 1978 British movie 'Scum'.


Great film.Ray Winston was excellent in that.


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#3942525 - 04/21/14 05:25 PM Re: My son took this photo yesterday... [Re: Mace71]  
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Looks like a broken window....or a clean spot on a dirty window.

I'd just leave it alone Mace, keep him away from there.
We used to go to a very large closed down TB sanatorium, just for kicks, take the girls with us to scare them, till one of the guys fell off the roof.
Never recovered. Another guy cut himself bad on broken glass on the floor....OF A TB SANITORIUM!!
Don't know how that turned out.

Nope, if he was mine, I'd keep a close eye on him for a while.
That could be a life changer....and maybe not.
Just taught me a lesson.
But did change a life....for someone else.


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