#3912918 - 02/17/14 12:21 AM
Re: New build questions
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I have an i5 750 running at stock 2.6GHz on a Gigabyte P55-US3L. With a Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, I could OC this to 4.1GHz on air cooling.... but have since gone back to stock clocks as I never really felt the need for more clock speed. I also have 2 SSDs, the first one I bought was a 256GB Crucial M4 and I put my OS (Win7 64bit) and some games. About a year later, I added another 250GB Samsung 840 SSD which I've committed to games. However, even with the first SSD, I put my Documents and other such folders on a HDD. Even on my current setup, I only put the games I play on SSD. Other games, such as ones I play only once in a while, or turn-based games that don't need much speed, stay on the HDD. I use a Steam tool to "transfer" games from the HDD to the SSD and vice-versa when needed. And remember, my board only supports up to 3GB/s transfer, newer boards should go up to 6GB/s and thus make better use of SSDs.
With regards to space on the SSDs for OS and programs, that really depends what programs you use and how big they are. I just use the bog-standard MS Office, Photoshop, blah blah blah and have 122GB still free on my OS drive.
Hope that gives you an idea!
With regards to your other items, I guess you'd only need to worry about a new PSU once you start getting your beefier cards. I have no idea about the GPU-power needs of a 3D monitor, but I am currently powering 4 monitors off a single HD 7970 3GB card and on a 850W Corsair PSU. DCS is running at 30+ fps with Aero turned on. I wouldn't skimp on the PSU selection though --- this baby powers everything on your system so it won't be a good idea to be cheap here. The good thing is that a quality PSU and quality case (I have a Corsair Carbide 500R which isn't top-of-the-line by a long shot!) should at least last the next 3-4 upgrades.
One thing though, you didn't specify what sort of RAM you were getting. If you would like to OC, make sure you get a quality brand with as tight a timing as possible, but there is no need to buy the exotic ones. You can identify these easily by the big jump in price compared to others of the same line. However, I would suggest going for a kit that is 1600MHz or better, that just gives you a bit more "overhead" to play with once you start OC-ing.
Hope that helps! Good luck with the build and post pics!
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#3913058 - 02/17/14 12:20 PM
Re: New build questions
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A reliable PSU would have a recognized brand name to start off. I never really read reviews for PSUs, but then again, I've only really had to buy two. I had one initially which blew a capacitor or something, so I bought a "spare one" as I sent the first for assessment and replacement. Now I use my 850W "spare" and gave the 700W one to my son when I built a PC for him. A quick research should give you all you need to know to make a proper PSU upgrade choice. If I were to make a suggestion though, you might want to consider modular PSUs. I have all sorts of extra cables which were a pain to tidy up, so if I were to buy a PSU now, I'd look for a modular one. My games and OS were on the same SSD initially, no problems with that. But it was pretty tight even on a 256GB SSD, so I got a second one. Current arrangement is OS on 1st SSD, games I am playing or those that need speed (DCS, BMS, CMBN [for faster loading times], a few Steam games) on 2nd SSD, documents/pics/movies/etc. on 1st HDD, the rest of Steam games and backups on 2nd HDD.
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#3913086 - 02/17/14 01:57 PM
Re: New build questions
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It's not just the wattage, though. The important things are the amps provided on the various "rails" eg 12v and 5v.
In other words, the wattage has to be where it's needed. Generally speaking I worked backwards. I looked at the video cards I was interested in, read their specs as to what they needed, then I got a PSU that fulfilled those needs because things like the drives and mobo power are standard and not a real concern.
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#3913179 - 02/17/14 04:48 PM
Re: New build questions
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Hi, I would spend the money now and get the PSU that will do SLI and all.. Also get a decent name brand one not one of those knockoffs.. Antec are pretty decent.. Also if you want a SSD but don't like the Small sizes get a Hybrid drive like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381&ignorebbr=1Other then getting a beefier PSU and a Hybrid drive that system looks pretty solid.. Do you plan on playing XPlane?? I like Single Rail 12v and good Amps on the 12v rail for the video card.. since you might be driving a SLI Setup you are going to need some amps on that 12v line I would imagine.. Try and determine which cards you will be going with and find out the amps needed by both.. Wattage is important too.. I always like to use the Calculators and use 100% system load so when I stress test I have the required wattage in reserve.. This last system I bought a 1000w PSU..
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#3913186 - 02/17/14 05:05 PM
Re: New build questions
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Hybrid drives are gimicky,
Just get a 128GB Drive for O/S and a 1TB Drive for storage.
As for PSU's, A Quality name brand with at least 50 Amps will be fine for non-XFire setup,
70+ Amps on the 12v Rail for XFire (Top Tier GPUs) and so on.
Stay away from Split 12v Rails. it's way too easy to overload one and blow it out.
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#3941671 - 04/19/14 03:29 PM
Re: New build questions
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Update--New Build is Done.
Based on your feedback I reconsidered the PSU and ultimately a few other things as well.
I decided to strengthen the bottom of the rig now and worry about the top end later. So I went for a 750 watt semi modular PSU and after breaking the budget on the PSU I went for broke and got the i7 4770k chip. I dropped the cooler and the SSD and got a mid level HD for now.
End result: Intel i7 4770k w/ stock cooler Corsair HX750 semi modular PSU Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H board GSkill 8GB DDR3 1600 WD Blue 1TB HDD OEM DVD RW Windows 7 Pro Corsair 230T case EVGA GTX460 (holdover)
So far its fantastic. runs quiet and unstressed at stock speeds. Its another world from my old Prescott based system. But I got to say the old 3.0ghz 640 P4 HT ran IL2 and rfactor like a champ for over 7 years. But all I could do in Rise of Flight was sightseeing.
Now I have Cliffs of Dover with Mods running great and I have never been more exited to fly in ages. Thanks for the help!
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#3941805 - 04/19/14 10:04 PM
Re: New build questions
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Congrats on the new build! The 4770K is a sweet CPU and the UD4H is capable from what I've read. However, the 4770K is a chip that you buy to overclock, otherwise it's like buying a Ferrari for your everyday commute! A lot of people use a good 3rd-party air cooler and push the 4770K to 4.4GHz or higher --- my plan is to go further and play with those AIO watercooler blocks since my case has a slot at the top specifically for this purpose. I've not upgraded yet as there seems to be a new mobo in the works so I'll see how that goes before deciding to pull the plug. I did a quick search for your case and I'd just like you to be careful and make sure you have adequate air circulation. Download CPUID HWMonitor and turn it on and leave it on when you use your PC and play games. It'll note your min and max temps so that'll show you how hot your system runs --- no sense in burning a new chip! Good luck!
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#3941917 - 04/20/14 04:57 AM
Re: New build questions
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I've had a Lian Li case for the last 6 years. I love that thing. Beautiful engineering. Definitely get a case that you like. It's more important than you think.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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