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#3930377 - 03/26/14 06:22 PM Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training?  
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Hi all! I just grabbed FC3 because of the sale, and I noticed it has no interactive training missions. I haven't touched any of the FC aircraft since the LOMAC days, so I'm more than a little rusty. Does anyone have a set of interactive training missions for the Flaming Cliffs aircraft?

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#3930516 - 03/26/14 11:38 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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I found that if you actually look in the Missions menu, under the FC3 folder, some of the pre-existing missions are meant for training purposes, albeit with only text annotations to guide you throughout the intended workings of the training mission, such as how to enable your sensors (radar, EOS, Shkval/Mercury TV guidance, etc.) and lock/unlock things with them, how to work your sensor modes, etc.

This is very easy to overlook and certainly another sign that Eagle Dynamics and sim developers in general need to work on the training aspect of these complex flight sims.

#3930728 - 03/27/14 01:33 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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It's down to the user to hunt down various training videos on you-tube etc... I have one running on desktop usually and keep alt, tabbing out of the game to check it at intervals when I'm flying. Not ideal I know.

#3930819 - 03/27/14 03:57 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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There was a website that has all the original Flaming Cliffs training missions as videos, and also has all of the transcripts written out on web pages, with pictures - Jabog 32 I think it was.

I converted all the pages to MS Works (my WP of choice, but you could use any you like) and printed them all out.

The instructions are mostly the same as for FC3 as far as key assignments and procedures goes.

I put all these printed sheets into a 40-page display book and now I use that as a handy reference when I'm flying an aircraft I am unsure of, or haven't flown for a while. It was absolutely worth putting the time and effort in, as I've used it hundreds of times over the last 8 or 9 years.

edit - that website doesn't seem to have this stuff anymore. If you want it, I'm quite happy to upload all my files for you. The 7zip file is about 20MB in size and the pages are in Works format (*.wps) - I may be able to change them to a different format such as RTF, though.

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#3930906 - 03/27/14 06:59 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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Here - I uploaded it anyway - then anyone can use it for their own reference.

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/29909ad9

It's about 75MB, though, as I had to use zip instead of 7z.

All files have been converted to RTF with just a little formatting difference to my originals such as pictures to one side instead of in the middle etc - no biggie.


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#3930945 - 03/27/14 08:26 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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If you're thinking of Ironhand's missions for Lock On and FC1, with his permission I converted his videos to OGV and integrated them into the FC2 and FC3 training menus.

The file is an 8 part 7zip file available on Google Drive.

And the Su-25T videos are in a 2 part 7zip file hosted on LOF. Be sure to download the patch as well, which updates the menus to allow for the latest interactive Su-25T training missions.


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#3930950 - 03/27/14 08:39 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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some of the pre-existing missions are meant for training purposes

I didn't realize that... I'll check 'em out, thanks for the heads up!

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I have one running on desktop usually and keep alt, tabbing out of the game to check it at intervals when I'm flying. Not ideal I know.

Better than repeatedly slamming into the back of the Kuznetsov for not knowing how to handle the jet properly! Well, depending on the type of fun you're trying to have anyway.

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Here - I uploaded it anyway - then anyone can use it for their own reference.

Cool, thanks a bunch! As soon as I get home I'm downloading those!

#3930967 - 03/27/14 09:03 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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#3931102 - 03/28/14 02:24 AM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: MigBuster]  
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Originally Posted By: MigBuster


Are those the same ones that download when you use the link in the FC3 tab in the training menu, or different?

#3931103 - 03/28/14 02:26 AM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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They should be the same as the download link in the training menu.


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#3933212 - 04/01/14 09:24 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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Any chance Eagle Dynamics works on redoing the Flaming Cliffs planes with interactive videos? Would love to start an SU-25T one or an A-10A. I remember the original LOMAC training missions with these planes were great.

The first time I flew the A-10A mission where you had to fly at night around the airfield using only radio nav and land was very rewarding smile


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#3933219 - 04/01/14 09:41 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 3 interactive training? [Re: wraith444]  
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The Su-25T actually already has them. Either that or I found and downloaded a set... Can't remember which it was. In any case, they're out there for it. Whoever wrote the second landing training mission was a sadist!


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