I see you used rudder in the end. lol

Not in the CloD part

That is why I like the BoS FM so much; you should have to fight the torque, anything else is tosh!

Interesting on ATAG the "censorship" was done by OP.
The topic remains freely, and as usual in "trolling word'fights" funny,

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8263&page=2



Sokol1

Thats too funny. Deleting his own posts and calling it censorship. LOL

This video lost me completely when the tree went through the cockpit @ 1:34.. Igt's bad enough top have phantom trees to begin with.. but when they start ghosting through the pit...

stop that #%&*$# sokol. they locked the thread. i didnt say they deleted the posts.






Take the Tiger Moth. It´s even better, when the grass goes through the wings and pit

And part of the same team that produced CloD are producing BoS

I don't get all this anti CloD stuff from the BoS fanboi.

I have both and like both. Apples and Oranges, both have their merits and both have their failings, although most of BoS's failings are yet to be discovered.

It's just sour grapes. BoS isn't what BoM was supposed to be, despite the reality that BoM was not going to be a successful way forward after what happened with CloD.
Team similarities or not, 777 came into this and they're mad about that. Oddly, you don't see them really hyping up DCS WWII, though, just complaining about what BoS WON'T have.




The Jedi Master

Bearcat I hope you don't mind a novice (yea still, in my opinion) pilot reflecting on your comment. I respect your thoughts on the trees and even Quax's, as I do most everyone's opinion. However I don't, personally, make the trees not having collision factors as a game stopper. I realize the problem or issues with the trees. And even when in RoF it seems odd that trees will turn to follow my flight but this does not stop me flying it.

In CloD I set my mind to the fact that I do not want to hit any trees on take off, landings or evasions at low level. This is after all a flight simulator and not a ground simulator. To have it all would be nice, but alas we settle for what we can get.

BoS has a ways to go from it's Alpha stage and may end up being a jewel in the flight sim communities crown. It might not. To state ones opinion is a good thing. But anyone who chooses to beat another person over the head with their opinion is, in my opinion, out of place.

Since we ALL have the option of choosing what we play it should be no problem. But alas it would appear that some take exception to this. That is a shame.

And Bearcat, only the tree part was directed at you. Please don't misunderstand me.

I could not agree more with this

I agree with you bisher & Brigstock ...... but to many it's sort of like someone building a boat but stopping before it's seaworthy to build another one. If you had bought into the first boat, no matter how gifted the craftsmen were, you would hope they finished the first before starting a new project. One can't help but wonder if these self same craftsmen will stick by this boat or ......

However, to contradict my own comment, the MORE the merrier I guess ....

If they discover that to fix the first boat will cost as much or more as to build a new one from scratch that will be less difficult to maintain, it's perfectly understandable.

No point in fixing the first one if it causes the company to go bankrupt doing it. You're perfectly within your rights not to bother with the 2nd one if you so choose, but it's a business and they have to do what will keep them running.



The Jedi Master

Well that was shortlived, I make my very first post on the ATAG forums in reply to Quax's post and everyone jumps in resulting in the post being locked again. Still I learned something new today, i.e. that prop torque isn't the same as spiral forces from the prop. and that those forces vary from plane to plane. A nice welcome was had by all the ATAG guys, just a pity that I didn't reply before the thread was locked, still I'll drop by again and give my appreciation.
I tell you it must hvae been an absolute revalation when jets came in and all this prop stuff could finally be left behind...

They sunk the first boat, with all who bought into it onboard, in order to get everyone to buy the second, less capable, but more profitable boat.
BOS exists because CLOD was killed off (officially).

You can't make apples to apples comparison between the two.

CLOD died so BOS could live on. Same as War of the Worlds.

The Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few.

We can argue about the "feel of flight" forever, with quotes from books with their own inherent prejudice's. I'm not a pilot, but have had moments of control over a number of aircraft from a CF104 Starfighter too gliders. Overall the feel of flight in BOS and COD are decent. That said they both have differences, some appear over-modeled, some appear under-modeled, but I've never flown a WW2 aircraft. Nothing in the FM's of either sim is set in stone, and will evolve over many years if we're lucky. I'm sure if there is a consensus that their is a problem, especially with the people capable of making the change, they will look into what can be done to effect that change.

If you find something in a sim that doesn't suit your sense of reality. You have to be a little diplomatic, about it, and don't go into another sims forum, and suggest their sim is crap, and yours is the be all and end all. If you go in with this attitude, your just going to be considered as a Troll, by many in the forums, and receive appropriate responses.

Its hard to judge the original posters merits, as he's deleted his posts before I had a chance to read them in the ATAG forums, but the fact he deleted his own posts, and then cried censorship speaks volumes. "this vid was censored in the BoS and ATAG forum. Let´s see how long it survives here cheers "