I am very interested in rof but only from a single player/campaign standpoint.
The last post on this topic that I could find was 2008.
Has the game improved with regard to single player campaign development?
Does it come anywhere near off in this feature?
What does it do well and what is it lacking?
I would appreciate any and all opinions/reviews on this subject.
Thanks.

well, for SP, RoF has basically three different offerings:

a) fixed campaigns with pre-designed missions like the St.Mihiel DLC, or the "Spiderweb" (free) made by Waxworks which have recieved pretty positive reviews. So: great experience but limited campaigns/missions

b)beta-career:
more dynamic, joining a squad and flying generated missions.. nice, but it can be repetitive after a while and definatly not a 100% finished and polished mode. Lots of potential, but also some frustration.

c) Pat Wilsons Campaign Generator
an extra programe generating missions for RoF, and lets you live and tell a career story. A free mod, made with a lot of dedication and lots of challenging mission types. Some absolutly swear by it and while for others it is not really a full replacement for a perfectly working ingame career system.

yeah, and quick missions and so off course. it is getting better, and you can test it for free with the basic version. So what´s stopping you?

(ah, and IMHO: don´t do the default training career, that will likely give a wrong impression...)

Thanks man.
Sounds interesting.
Do any of the campaign mods for RoF include aces to fly against (thebigR,etc)?
I will definitely try the basic free download and look for these other options.
Thanks again.
Do you play both? (off/rof?)

Hi danc

this post seems to answer your question about flying against aces, in Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator, anyway.

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=394&t=39808

You also get to fly with aces in PWCG. MvR was my squadron leader in this campaign, though on this particular patrol I was leading...and I had Ernst Udet in my flight, in his distinctive Fokker triplane:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3830846/Re_Best_Current_WWI_Sim#Post3830846

RoF's free and so is PWCG so you can try it out with the free Albatros DV or SPAD XIII (all the other planes come as AI-flown) and buy whatever other planes you fancy flying, if you like it. It's not the SAME single-player campaign experience as OFF (or FE for that matter), each has their good and less good points and which you prefer will depend on what's most important to you. The mission comparisons in the second link above were my attempt to 'compare and contrast' each of the current 'big three', specifically from the standpoint of the single player campaign experience.

I would highly recommend Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator.
My enjoyment of this sim has been revitalised after installing this recently.
I found SP mode to be very sterile and somewhat boring with no immersion otherwise, but I suspect I am comparing it to my online experience in other sims as I cannot play RoF online due to poor connection and somewhat dated kit.

Thanks guys.
I just tried my first flight but I need to program my Saitekx52 for RoF.
Do you know where I could download one or at least get a hard copy of the
control commands. It's a pain to program using the "on screen" command list.
Thanks.

Easiest is to set up the Controllers ingame. If you want to program it in the Controllers software,here is a Keyboard chart,but it is outdatet and some of the functions like the Flares are working differently now and some of the newer functions are missing too.

fantastic...
Thanks again.

>the "Spiderweb" (free) made by Waxworks

where can I download the spiderweb missions?

Well,
Thank you all for your help and I loved the flight modeling in this game, best ever but....
I know I am going to catch hell for this but this has happened to me so many times that I just
have to vent.....
Ever since downloading and playing this game (100% off line) I have been having problems with:
browser pop ups, security breaches (norton), email inquiries, identity probe problems, etc.
It just was not worth it for me because when trying the campaign upgrades suggested I still did
not get the kind of , for me (off line), immersion that I get from OFF and Red Baron.
I deleted the game and am in the process of trying to clean up my system a bit.
I truly wish that the makers of this game could invest in some serious campaign modeling.
I know, on-line face to face, is the way of the future but the flight AI here would be great
to apply to a comprehensive computer experience off-line.
Thanks again.

I'm not exactly certain what connection you're making. I can assure you that the vast majority of us had no such issues. Otherwise, I think you would see the forums flooded with people making those same observations.

On the other hand, there are more than a few people who have made similar comments about the SP side being disappointing to them, but no one is talking about having technical or security issues.



The Jedi Master

At first I gave the devs credit for owning up to shortcomings and expected the campaign component to get completed before too long. Over four years have passed and the campaign is still beta. Honestly, this is disappointing to say the least. Nevertheless, I have persevered and bought every plane.

This sim is so great in every other respect that it would be a shame for it to never reach its full potential with a robust, dynamic single player campaign.

Don't confuse campaign and career. The campaign, a series of scripted missions, was there from day one. There are others you can buy or get for free around the web.
The career didn't show up until the game was already out for 2 years IIRC. As for the "beta" moniker, does it really matter? CloD's final release was less polished than the career beta is.
Is it just a label, there to help deflect criticism, whose usefulness has passed? I don't know, but it's immaterial.

The terms are no longer really relevant anymore, especially in an online-connected continually updated title like ROF has been. What's more accurate is probably "development complete" vs "in progress." By that metric, yes, the career is still in progress, but it's largely complete.



The Jedi Master

To paraphrase JediMaster, I may be confusing campaign and career but if it's the former you're interested in, Pat Wilson's Campaign Generator is the way to go.

And your blaming ROF for your computer problems? That is a bit of a stretch if I may say so. I have had this simulation for years and never have had a problem what-so-ever. There is nothing wrong with the campaign system. It is a work in progress.

I highly recommend Pat Wilsons Campaign Generator, if you haven't already tried it. He's up to 15.4 and if you add Gavs RoF Refined Mod (really a collection of mods) you get a very nice single player campaign experience.

I have indeed confused "campaign" with "career". Mea culpa. I hope the beta career continues to evolve.

I will have to try PWCG. So many fans can't all be wrong!

Spice your mainbrace and get thee down to downloading PWCG, combine it with Gavagai's "RoF_Refined" mod and you will have the best thing available for single-player within RoF!

With all respect, but you all forget one career tool the: career mission generator

That is true, Dutch. It is an alternative, but it should be noted that, according to Lemml himself, "Please see the Career Mission Generator as a quick instant action tool. " It may not really qualify as a solution for someone looking for a campaign or career mode.