Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
#3898811 - 01/20/14 11:40 PM wings of luftwaffe  
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
OXOUK123 Offline
Junior Member
OXOUK123  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
nottingham uk
just installed this from dvd , loaded ok , select any single missions and it comes up with a box saying "this content can be bought with 33 yum yums" .. what are they lol.. i thought it came with 10 missions ? any help would be kind !

cheers, oxo

Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3898892 - 01/21/14 04:05 AM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: OXOUK123]  
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,475
Uriah Offline
Senior Member
Uriah  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,475
Kansas City, Missouri - USA
Yum yums are are Yuplay money. If I remember right you can exchange real money for them. But I would have guessed that you would have 'earned' enough when you bought the game.


Race you to the Mucky Duck!
#3899086 - 01/21/14 03:05 PM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: OXOUK123]  
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,760
BD-123 Offline
Old Scroat
BD-123  Offline
Old Scroat
Senior Member

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,760
Naunton Beauchamp Worcestershi...
Good grief Oxo, is that you? Still swinging those pants? smile



#3899155 - 01/21/14 05:51 PM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: BD-123]  
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
OXOUK123 Offline
Junior Member
OXOUK123  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
nottingham uk
yes old chap .. tis me smile .. escaped the pow camp and hoping to be back in the air when i can remember how to start the bloody thing lol .. hope you are well , are you up for the re union this year ?

oxo

#3899159 - 01/21/14 05:53 PM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: Uriah]  
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
OXOUK123 Offline
Junior Member
OXOUK123  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3
nottingham uk
yum bloody yums ! says on the box comes with missions .. guess its a bit out of date now ... but looks the dog's to be honest .. il2 looks so dated against it .. but then i am so behind with all this now i have so much to catch up !

#3900475 - 01/23/14 07:19 PM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: OXOUK123]  
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,545
Simbo_Sim123 Offline
Member
Simbo_Sim123  Offline
Member

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,545
Tonyrefail South Wales
OXO Well well well . Those rumors of Stallagluft thingy and that frauline were obviously not true,you made it back to Blighty ! Good show old man.


Mae hen wlad fy nhadau yn annwyl i mi,
Gwlad beirdd a chantorion, enwogion o fri;
Ei gwrol ryfelwyr, gwladgarwyr tra m�d,
Dros ryddid collasant eu gwaed.
Gwlad, gwlad, pleidiol wyf i'm gwlad.
Tra m�r yn fur i'r bur hoff bau,
O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau.
#3904972 - 01/31/14 04:56 PM Re: wings of luftwaffe [Re: OXOUK123]  
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,743
HeinKill Offline
Senior Member
HeinKill  Offline
Senior Member

Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,743
Cloud based
Found an old review

The good: Two new aircraft (Ju88, P39) and 40+ new skins plus 10 missions for Axis aircraft for a game which still gives those ‘wow that’s freaking excellent’ moments during intense dogfight action. Plus a new four player Coop mode for online play.

The bad: The whole pay as you go model. While new flyable aircraft are welcome, it rankles to be paying to get content which should have been in the original release ie the Axis missions. And there is still no Axis campaign, nor are there cockpits for the flyable bombers including the new Ju88.

The ugly: Install glitches on YuPlay version. The new missions are insanely difficult.

How fat is your wallet?

It’s a question the whole digital media industry is trying to uncover and the gaming industry is at the forefront.

Take the original Wings of Prey. For $60USD you got a very successful port from console to PC, which provided a great combination of beautiful graphics, high fidelity flight models for dozens of Axis and Allied aircraft and exciting combat action both online and offline.

(Keep that $60USD download price tag in mind though for later discussion, and bear in mind the boxed console game is currently shipping for $20USD – yep $20 – from EB Games.)

Just as with Rise of Flight which used a similar pay as you go model, and restricted the content available in the base game, there was a scripted campaign in Wings of Prey, but only playable from the Allied side of the conflict, not the Axis. There were dozens of well crafted single missions and flyable aircraft (unlike RoF), but again, only playable from the Allied side.

As with RoF the developers want you to pay extra for new aircraft and features that used to be standard in sims (like a campaign or missions playable from both sides).

First to be released was a P40E Kittyhawk for $3 USD. I haven’t seen any buzz about this in the game forums, so I’m willing to bet this hasn't been a big seller. The price was OK though, in the new world where Rise of Flight gamers are paying $5 per kite.

Next to be released for Wings of Prey is the $15USD axis expansion pack Wings of Luftwaffe which gives players two new aircraft (Ju88 and P39) and 40 odd new skins, plus some sought after Axis missions (10 of them), and a new 4 player Coop online mode.

The expansion is available as a download from YuPlay.com or Steam. I bought the YuPlay version. YuPlay first installs a small download control program, then fetches the game install files (1 hour on my 10Mbit connection) and then automatically starts the install program.

Which is where it all went wrong. After a twenty minute install I got an error message saying the program was installing YuPlay.com, but could not delete the old version of YuPlay.com because ‘access was denied’. The install aborted. What? 80 minutes to reach a dead end!

Trial and error taught me the problem was that YuPlay.com was already running on my machine as a background process, probably because of the download control program. I killed that program before starting the install manually, rather than letting it start automatically, and it finally installed clean (an hour later). Total time tosolve glitch and install, 3 hours.

An irritating waste of time.

New flyables

The P39 and Ju88 are an enjoyable addition to the stable of aircraft and it will be interesting to see if players take them online.

The Ju88 was for me, a little disappointing. In BOBII there is a clear difference between the Ju88 and He III flight models, as there should be. You feel you are at the stick of a heavy fighter in the BOBII Ju88, compared to the He111 which handles more like a traditional medium bomber. I expected something like the A20 but the WoP Ju88 is indistinguishable from the He111, or even the heavier B17. It is nicely detailed and small things like the play of shadows through the glass nose canopy can delight and suprise, but the flight model must be a cut and paste from the basic medium bomber template in WoP. And the lack of a 3D cockpit is unforgiveable.

Not just a ground pounder: the new P39

The P39 is basically a flying cannon, with the 37mm in the nose giving it massive hitting power. Useless at altitude, it had nonetheless a high roll rate and Soviet pilots loved it low down where they found themselves dogfighting most of the time. It rolls like a FW190 and can take a lot of punishment, so it will be interesting to see if online players take to it. Let's face it, most online melees degenerate into a ground level turning fight, and the P39 may just prove a more survivable kite for the skilled, and less skilled, flyer alike.

One tech note though. The WoP P39 is supercharged. In the final Axis mission against Me262s it meets the 262s in a head on merge then turns behind the 262, catches up with it even if the 262 is accelerating in a climb through 450 kts. In a straight line, the 262 struggles to catch it even after the 262 is fully 'spooled up'. Believable? Hmmmmm.

(I have not yet tried the new 4 player Coop mode so will report on that later.)

Tweaked AI

The Axis expansion is part of a patch which supposedly improved the AI. The main difference I can see in the AI is that the devs have increased the number of aircraft targeting the player to unrealistic levels.

In a fight of basically one squadron of fighters against another, I would expect most fights to devolve into 1 vs 1, or 2 vs 1. Instead, you will constantly find yourself, the player, with 3-4 enemy fighters on your tail.

If there are more subtle changes to the AI, I haven't had time to detect them before my four pursuers blast me from the sky.

Realistic? Fun even? An improvement?

Not.

10 (count them), yes ten new missions

Ten new missions? Sorry but as a mission designer for BOBII I can attest to the fact that with a half capable mission creation engine to work with, a competent mission designer should have been able to crank out these 10 missions with about one day of work, and about the same of testing and tweaking.

The player looking forward to some Axis based mission goodness will not even find all the Axis aircraft types represented.

Hoping for a thrilling hit and run raid on Manston in your Bf110 Zerstorer? Sorry. Well, there is a new Ju88 in the game, right? Throughout the war it served as a heavy fighter, a night fighter, a fighter bomber and a fast medium bomber, so what missions were created for it?

None.

The ten new missions feature only four flyable aircraft types – 5 Bf109s (E3, F4, G2, G6, K4), 3 Fw190s (A5, D12, F8), a Ju87 and an Me262.

And the missions are insanely difficult. Take mission 1: a straightforward 'escort the Heinkels' job. Your two flights of 109s are met by enough Spitfires to make you think you have hit a Big Wing, and you immediately have 3-4 of them on your tail. Good luck doing anything but evading Spits for this entire mission.

In a mission involving a Bf109K intercepting B17s you have to fight your way through a squadron of P51s to get to the target B17s, and by the time you catch them, if you haven't been chopped to pieces by the P51s, you have time for one pass, max two, before the game declares the mission over because you have not destroyed enough B17s.

The final mission sees you in a 262 against a squadron of P39s, which you meet head on, at full cruising speed, about 600 km/h. Assuming you survive the merge, you will have at least 4 locked onto you for the duration. You might use your straight line speed to evade them, but when you swing around for another pass, you will have four 37mm cannon pointed straight at you next time you face them. Good luck.

There is however a nice selection of new skins now, including an almost Red Bull like FW skin intended to allow you to taunt your online opponents!

Value for money?

This expansion will set you back $15USD or a quarter of the original price of the PC game. Effectively this takes the cost of the full game to $78USD. And, many players would argue, until we get a true Axis campaign and a full mission builder or instant mission creator, Wings of Prey is still not the full deal yet…

But then Rise of Flight at $40USD is no bargain either. It shipped with only two flyable aircraft and if you have bought the three or four add on flyables since, you would be hovering around $60USD now. At least Wings of Prey has dozens of flyables.

However a WWII PC sim fan can't help look at the fact they can pick up IL21946 or Battle of Britain II Wings of Victory for just $20USD, both of which are heavily modded and updated, and available with a plethora of FREE skins, missions, flyable aircraft, campaigns, maps etc etc. No, even the modded IL2 doesn't have the eye candy of Wings of Prey, but it has literally thousands of missions, campaigns, skins and hundreds of flyable kites to choose from. BOBII doesn't have the ground detail of Wings of Prey, but it has the best flight models and enemy AI of any sim available.

Wings of Prey is very hard to justify in terms of value for money.

Conclusion

$15 for this expansion adds up to $6 for the two new flyable aircraft (at the going price for WoP kites), and $9 for the new skins, missions and coop online mode.

Worth it? Honestly, only you can judge that.







[Linked Image]

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
Carnival Cruise Ship Fire....... Again
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:58 PM
Baltimore Bridge Collapse
by F4UDash4. 03/26/24 05:51 PM
The Oldest WWII Veterans
by F4UDash4. 03/24/24 09:21 PM
They got fired after this.
by Wigean. 03/20/24 08:19 PM
Grown ups joke time
by NoFlyBoy. 03/18/24 10:34 PM
Anyone Heard from Nimits?
by F4UDash4. 03/18/24 10:01 PM
RIP Gemini/Apollo astronaut Tom Stafford
by semmern. 03/18/24 02:14 PM
10 years after 3/8/2014
by NoFlyBoy. 03/17/24 10:25 AM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0