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#4256313 - 05/05/16 01:29 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF ***** [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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#4256354 - 05/05/16 04:36 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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yep

Well said about the French a/c. even AI only ( dont need to fly them) would be great, and I too would pay for a Mega pack of Frenches and more skins Fokker D-II -III, DH4 ect. thumbsup

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#4256363 - 05/05/16 05:09 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Did you see Farman MF.11, MF.40, Caudron G.IV, Salmson 2A2, Breguet XIV, and SPAD XVI are listed in some french squadrons planeset ? It was not the case in WOFF 2 if i remember well. Maybe for some future add-on packs.

Or not.

We will see...

#4256410 - 05/05/16 11:44 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hopefully that's a clue to new two-seaters that we can expect to get in the future! smile

I may be in the minority, but I think all new planes that are added to WOFF should also be flyable by the player, and not only AI. Two-seaters shouldn't be treated differently from fighters. After all, the air war was all about the two-seaters doing their job. The fighters existed only to help or hinder them.

However, if it comes down to a choice between having a new AI-only plane or no new plane at all, the first option would be preferable. But I do hope the devs keep following their practice of having all new WOFF planes flyable also by the player.


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#4256419 - 05/05/16 12:14 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I think we will get the two seaters eventually. It has certainly been a long standing request from many. The beauty of it though is that they can be a simple add-on pack like the 3 we already have. I understand Pol as having said that there will still be add-ons in the future so it's entirely possible it could still happen.


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#4257821 - 05/08/16 01:09 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I feel bad posting something (again), especially since WOFF 3 was just released

Is there any way to allow the flights to be manually adjusted, i.e. number in flight and who is in it? I think having the ability to have the same flight leader (until he's injured, killed, on leave, transferred, etc.) would add to getting "to know" your flight. Also, adding the C-flight to the larger fighter squadrons might accommodate this as well. I love how the flights are larger in regards to the year, but I'm merely asking if these flights can be modified at all in the future.

If anyone from OBD can say "this can't happen" I'll sit back and continue to enjoy the game without bringing it up again cheers

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#4257831 - 05/08/16 01:45 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: AceMedic88]  
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Originally Posted By: CaNy_Ace88

If anyone from OBD can say "this can't happen" I'll sit back and continue to enjoy the game without bringing it up again cheers


it can be possible. I have done it manually, but now we have a gui mission editor in the works which can be integrated into the campaign. Also, Just like my airfield mod as well. But more people need to voice their thoughts to OBD to integrate this mission editor mod into WOFF3.

#4257837 - 05/08/16 01:57 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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In some PMs with other users we chatted about the possibility of a button for changing the mission type.

WOFF_2 offered a chance to receive a different type of mission, when you pressed the button "Optional Flight".
Maybe you had "Balloon Attack", but didn't want to fly over the lines that day.
So you pressed the button and might receive "Airfield Defense" this time.
The other posters and I quite liked that freedom of choice.

According to the devs, the button though was "broken" in WOFF_2.
Now it is "repaired" - and the function is not the same anymore.
Now you can only change from one "Balloon attack" target to another.

Now I thought:
when there are two buttons there - one for "Optional Flight", and one for "Alternative Target" -
why not make the first one, like it was before - a button for selecting different mission types?

And the other - "Alternative Target" - could perhaps be changed to "Alternative Objective",
and so allow the choice of either different targets, or, when nothing had to get attacked,
different flight paths/areas?

Now, I have no idea how possible or impossible it would be to change that,
but I am sure that many flyers here would like such choice of selection.
What do you think?


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#4257841 - 05/08/16 02:06 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
In some PMs with other users we chatted about the possibility of a button for changing the mission type.

WOFF_2 offered a chance to receive a different type of mission, when you pressed the button "Optional Flight".
Maybe you had "Balloon Attack", but didn't want to fly over the lines that day.
So you pressed the button and might receive "Airfield Defense" this time.
The other posters and I quite liked that freedom of choice.

According to the devs, the button though was "broken" in WOFF_2.
Now it is "repaired" - and the function is not the same anymore.
Now you can only change from one "Balloon attack" target to another.

Now I thought:
when there are two buttons there - one for "Optional Flight", and one for "Alternative Target" -
why not make the first one, like it was before - a button for selecting different mission types?

And the other - "Alternative Target" - could perhaps be changed to "Alternative Objective",
and so allow the choice of either different targets, or, when nothing had to get attacked,
different flight paths/areas?

Now, I have no idea how possible or impossible it would be to change that,
but I am sure that many flyers here would like such choice of selection.
What do you think?


+1 I would be all for that. If you want to fly whatever is handed to you, you just wouldn't use the Alternative Objective button. But for those who may not enjoy being handed the same type of mission several times in a row...which, I have no doubt, was probably historically accurate, but may not always be "fun". It would allow WOFF to be enjoyable to a larger audience IMHO. Not sure how hard that would be to code though, but flexibility is always a plus.


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#4257842 - 05/08/16 02:10 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Absolutely agree with both Olham,s and Hellshades comments above,to give us more choice of which mission to take would be amazing..please Devs make it happen cheers


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#4257885 - 05/08/16 03:50 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hear! Hear! thumbsup

The WOFF 2 campaign was an incredible wonderful sandbox, in that I could pick a squad and region, and then go into that region and do pretty much anything I wanted to do by just pressing the Optional Flight button a couple of times to find a mission that suited my mood "Let's see, I think I want to attack a train!" smile

It had a feel very much like IL-2 1946 in that the world seemed huge and infinite with no rules (yes, I generally play a privileged Albert Ball type character in my mind where I get a Nieuport for my personal hunting in addition to my SE5a winkngrin ).

It would be fantastic to get that magic back! I'm not so much into linear careers where you have to do one thing before the next and always follow the orders. In fact, I really don't like that at all. And that is why the campaign in WOFF 2 was so fantastic IMO!


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#4257890 - 05/08/16 04:02 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Didn't bought WOFF3 yet, but I don't really like what I have read. I also liked the possibility to 'choose' your mission/or objective position. Hope it will be back.

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#4257902 - 05/08/16 04:44 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Joe, then you haven't read ALL of my comments yet - I like it a lot!
Give it a chance, man - it costs no fortune, does it?


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#4257942 - 05/08/16 06:07 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Yeah, Joe, WOFF 3 is pretty amazing. I'm starting to get a lot of "its looks like a movie" angles as I'm flying around in "Spot" view. All of the lighting and shadow details are giving life to every object in the game. And watching the rear gunners dancing around doing what they do so much better now, its just compelling. And if you're in an FE2b or Aviatik the show up front is fantastic!

Its almost like when Pinocchio came to life...he's alive!

The new 2-seater experience is worth the price of admission alone, whether you're flying one or attacking one. smile


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#4257951 - 05/08/16 06:32 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Don't get me wrong I don't like some of the things I have read, the overall seems pretty cool, although I will wait a bit before buying it, because like every game update, I know there will be a few hotfixes before everything is ok, plus I don't have muche time for WOFF right now. But the "optional flight" thing in WOFF 2 was great, and was one of the thing I liked the most in the campaign.

#4258156 - 05/09/16 11:36 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I wonder if POL has seen these posts regarding the optional flight button being bought back similar to WOFF 2?
Your post at the top of this page Bucksnort nails what I'm wanting exactly
Apologies POL if you have seen these posts and are/ aren't working to bring the optional flights back.
I totally understand how busy you guys are.
Thanks OBD once again for your wonderful sim.


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#4258167 - 05/09/16 11:48 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted By: Adger
I wonder if POL has seen these posts regarding the optional flight button...

I totally understand how busy you guys are.

Adger, not sure if ANYone of us really understand that. matrix
I'd say, let's give the good man a rest.
They have just released WOFF_3, and I guess, none of us have/has the faintest idea
how many single little things need to get sorted out, changed, corrected or built new,
to make everything work.
And then endless testing, more corrections, more changing etc. etc.

Apart from that work, they also are forum moderators.
In that function, I am very sure they read all our stuff.
I guess we should have some patience.


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#4258557 - 05/10/16 10:40 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Busy indeed ..

It will be set back to how it was in WOFF 2 in the next update probably V3.4. You should be doing what the CO dictates that's the idea but anyway...

Optional flight just gives you the same mission type, just different target of the same type - if available.
Alternative target changes the target type - if available.

However you will be able to go out to campaign screen and come back in to get another random mission type. This of course, being random, could give you the same type as last time. It will also be dependent on the squad's role - some have limited mission types. Some for example will mostly be patrol, with some balloon busting, intercept whatever from time to time.


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#4258558 - 05/10/16 10:46 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
Busy indeed ..

It will be set back to how it was in WOFF 2 in the next update probably V3.4. You should be doing what the CO dictates that's the idea but anyway...

Optional flight just gives you the same mission type, just different target of the same type - if available.
Alternative target changes the target type - if available.

However you will be able to go out to campaign screen and come back in to get another random mission type. This of course, being random, could give you the same type as last time. It will also be dependent on the squad's role - some have limited mission types. Some for example will mostly be patrol, with some balloon busting, intercept whatever from time to time.




Wow..Thanks so much to you,Winder and the rest of the crew at OBD,the choices that you continue to give us astound me.
It's brilliant news for me and I'm sure many others to have a possible alternative target to attack,and so much more..
Massive thanks POL


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#4258563 - 05/10/16 10:57 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Thank you for "listening" (reading), Pol and Winder,
and for the intention to set it back to WOFF_2 status!

You are right of course, the most serious campaign flyers should follow the given
orders. But that won't be lost through the change. I am sure I will fly campaigns
like that, and never touch that button.
But then I also have kinda "semi-serious" pilots, for whom I allow air starts and
such. I fly them when time is shorter. And those pilots should be happy with the
button - it offers just more choice. Thanks a lot!

Adger, not sure if you understood everything correct - the button "Alternative
Target" does already exist in WOFF_3. I think it was even in WOFF_2.


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