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#4253120 - 04/26/16 12:33 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF ***** [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
We know Hasse. Problem is actually making them (or any craft) takes a L o n g time.
if I can click some fingers they'd all be in now.
And then there's other people who would rather see a different aircraft (many of those :)) and there's those that are needed for certain squads too and so on. biggrin


Honestly Pol, is "EVERYTHING, YESTERDAY" really that much to ask? biggrin


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#4253134 - 04/26/16 01:13 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
We know Hasse. Problem is actually making them (or any craft) takes a L o n g time.

We know, Pol - that's why we keep pushing! duck biggrin

Originally Posted By: Polovski
And then there's other people who would rather see a different aircraft...

Simply not ignore those, I say. biggrin

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...and there's those that are needed for certain squads too and so on.

Well, a Caudron G.IV would
a) look great and totally different to any other two-seater
b) be a long used French two-seater
c) be also most welcome as a variation of cannon fodder for my twin Spandaus! Mmuahahahahaaa!!!


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#4253140 - 04/26/16 01:21 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Yes, just like marathon, this is an endurance sport.

For example, I've been pushing for the French two-seaters and Belgians for years now, and I can tell you it isn't easy. biggrin


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#4253142 - 04/26/16 01:42 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hasse, I'm right there with you brother. The addition of just two French two-seaters would elevate WOFF to such ethereal heights.


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#4253222 - 04/26/16 06:05 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
We know Hasse. Problem is actually making them (or any craft) takes a L o n g time.
if I can click some fingers they'd all be in now.
And then there's other people who would rather see a different aircraft (many of those :)) and there's those that are needed for certain squads too and so on. biggrin


Of course there allways be a missing plane, but to have a nearly complete career experience, french two-seaters are the biggest missing thing for years 1915 and 1916. And in 1917-18, but now we know Breguet 14 or Salmson 2 will come.

I think i'm objective, even if i'm a french man. For exemple, i saw people asking for a Morane N; to be honest Red Baron (the game) made its legacy more than itself. A few were built, and in facts, it was not an important aircraft. That's why i'll never wish it.

For those who doesn't know Voisin III and Caudron G.4, click to see a small preview. I think it explains well why those aircrafts were importants in 1915-16.

Have a nice day.

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#4253236 - 04/26/16 07:01 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
Originally Posted By: dutch


nope that is not the case, read my postings back. I had the same this weekend flying a German DFW 2seater. The gunner AI is programmed defencive and not offensive.

So still stands, a commando key to give the gunner a command he can act also offensive to the nearest enemy plane
salute



Actually it's not programmed "defensive" but it will not fire at it's own tail or wires or wings etc, or when being sick from too much aircraft movement and so on.


If flying a Fee and approching a German eindecker headon in a QC mission, he is not shooting with his front gun, here No wings, no wires and he can not be sick, only the pilot because of this.

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#4253281 - 04/26/16 09:28 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: dutch]  
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Originally Posted By: dutch
If flying a Fee and approching a German eindecker headon in a QC mission, he is not shooting with his front gun, here No wings, no wires and he can not be sick, only the pilot because of this.

Dutch, if you observe the rear facing gun you'll notice that the observer is trying to use it first and he is swinging it forward, but is obviously unsuccessful. When he realizes that this won't work he switches to the front mounted gun, but the Eindecker is long gone from field of view by then. The solution would be to have the observer use the front facing gun as default, or at least better routine for selecting the appropriate gun mount for front and rear facing threats.


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#4253282 - 04/26/16 09:34 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I would like to see German career pilots having to go back to flight school before switching to the Dreideckers and train on Eindeckers to get familiar with the rotary engines. I don't know, 1 or 2 days could do it?


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#4253365 - 04/27/16 05:54 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Originally Posted By: dutch
If flying a Fee and approching a German eindecker headon in a QC mission, he is not shooting with his front gun, here No wings, no wires and he can not be sick, only the pilot because of this.

Dutch, if you observe the rear facing gun you'll notice that the observer is trying to use it first and he is swinging it forward, but is obviously unsuccessful.


Maybe the code is inherited from back seater gunners, where rear facing gun is default?

#4253587 - 04/27/16 07:23 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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When a new mission is generated WOFF assigns a plane to each pilot and selects one pilot to be the flight leader. I would much prefer that both decisions be based on the same criteria. They currently seem to be opposites.

The best planes are always given to the historical aces first, regardless of rank, seniority, or number of victories. The flight leader selection seems to be based on rank, with the human pilot having priority over equal-ranking HAs.

This means that I often end up being the flight leader. However, I'm stuck with an old model plane while everyone else in my flight has the latest and greatest model.

This doesn't make sense. If the HAs must have priority on plane assignments then they should be at the top of the list of flight leaders as well.

#4253718 - 04/27/16 11:35 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I've just seen you were speaking of 230lbs bombs for the american two-seaters career. That reminded me DH.4 was in service with AEF. Completely forget about that.

But i'm still hopping you'll give to Aéronautique Militaire some more two-seaters. At least as AI.

BTW, keep up the good work.

#4254713 - 05/01/16 05:49 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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For the future if releasing a add on pack for Woff3, please include more skins. Right now as a sample the Fokker DII from the Motley crewpack seems to have only one default skin.


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#4255311 - 05/03/16 12:22 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Maybe just a question, but maybe a wish.

Many 2-seaters will pickle their bombs (and allow you to pickle them) in increments smaller than their total bomb load count, then come around for another pass. Other two 2-seaters can only drop their entire load (ie: the DFW can only drop all three 50kg bombs at once).

Is this already historically accurate for each plane, or is there room for improvement on some of the 2-seaters (I guess this would be the case for the bomb carrying fighters also).

It would be great to be able to pickle the bombs in smaller increments on the planes that don't allow it, but only if historically accurate.

Thanks either way!


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#4256119 - 05/04/16 06:56 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hello,

Flooded Area around Dixmude would be very great. And surely Belgian Air Service...

vschoell

#4256160 - 05/04/16 08:14 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: vschoell]  
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Hello,

Flooded Area around Dixmude would be very great. And surely Belgian Air Service...

vschoell


Yes to both from me too! (Surprise!) smile

Unless I'm mistaken, WOFF 3 will be the final WOFF version, so it sure would be great if one of the add-on packs for it turned out to include the air force of Brave Little Belgium...


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#4256166 - 05/04/16 08:22 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hasse, don't give up on begging for French two-seaters, as it is, there are only two French two seaters in WOFF. They only need to add two more and they could be done with the French.


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#4256180 - 05/04/16 08:33 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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I won't settle for anything less than at least *four* new French two-seaters. Five would be even better. biggrin


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#4256226 - 05/04/16 09:33 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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#4256266 - 05/04/16 10:57 PM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: lederhosen]  
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Maybe someday, but more likely we will be treated to some nice plane add-on packs once in awhile. Personally I'm hoping for a couple more French Two Seaters and one or more Allied heavy bombers to match the Germans Gothas. Time will tell.

In the meantime, I will be happily flying WOFF 3 for many, many years to come. I remember I was just hoping someone would make an updated Red Baron 3D. WOFF blew past those standards long ago as far as I'm concerned.

So after WOFF 3 gets patched for a little bit, the Devs will go dark for awhile as they work on their new project, but we will still have awesome modders adding great options to the sim, like OldHats (and GEEZERS) Airfield crews and items Mod, LOU's historically accurate airfields and Olhams rivers, facemasks, etc. I would like to see that Archie mod for crossing the front. I'm hoping someone can make that! wink







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#4256311 - 05/05/16 01:26 AM Re: Wish List for WOFF [Re: Hellshade]  
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Originally Posted By: Hellshade
Originally Posted By: lederhosen
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Maybe someday, but more likely we will be treated to some nice plane add-on packs once in awhile. Personally I'm hoping for a couple more French Two Seaters and one or more Allied heavy bombers to match the Germans Gothas. Time will tell.

In the meantime, I will be happily flying WOFF 3 for many, many years to come. I remember I was just hoping someone would make an updated Red Baron 3D. WOFF blew past those standards long ago as far as I'm concerned.


I agree, although the big thing about the missing French two-seaters is that they make careers with certain squadrons at certain times pointless, at least IMO. WOFF is all about the time-machine aspect. Every career you have below Flanders and the British region has the glaring flaw of pretty much no two-seaters to engage or meet or add to your victory counts. Start a career with a Jasta in Alsace or southern France, and you'll be up against nothing but fighters and the occasional strutter, which really isn't very realistic and feels silly to me. If we could just get a Breguet 14, Dorand AR, and maybe one of Caudron/Voisin/Farman for earlier periods, even as AI only, this problem with disappear. You'd then be able to start a career with any squadron anywhere along the front at any time, and be up against a representatively correct enemy. As it is now, their ommision is incredibly glaring. I would happily pay for a two-seater AI mega pack that would flesh out the two-seater rosters (doesn't need to be flyable), and it would be the single biggest thing that this wonderful sim could improve on.

For my money, the DH4 was the best addition with WOFF 3, and I haven't even flown it yet (and might not for a while, I prefer fighter campaigns).

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