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#3864531 - 11/19/13 03:22 AM Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside?  
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Hi, I'm about to embark on a little project, and was hoping someone else might have crossed this minefield before me and may have some advice.

I have 2 Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs, which I've found to be invaluable for mapping those innumerable utility controls which I can never remember which of the zillion hat switches on my flight stick I've bound them to.

The problem is that I generally game in the dark to see the screen better, which means I'm unable to see the labels on the buttons, which are just printed on paper.

Rather than go all out and add some mini-monitors to the MFDs (expensive, performance issues, and I want to avoid multiple monitors since my PC is also my entertainment center for my TV) I was thinking that I'd backlight the central opening of the MFDs with green LEDs, and then print the control labels on transparencies to allow the lights to shine through, making them visible in the dark.

While it would be fairly trivial to just build some battery-powered light packs and put them in there, I was thinking that the ideal solution would be to power the LEDs form the MFDs themselves, meaning no batteries, and the brightness setting for the MFD's LEDs would also apply to the labels.

I'm a little hesitant just to pry open the MFDs for risk of breaking them, only to discover that their innards are really scary and hacking in some additional LEDs isn't practical.

Has anyone ever opened up one of these MFDs to look inside / do a similar mod / attempt repairs? I'd be very curious to hear what you found in there before I crack open my own.

Thanks.

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#3864560 - 11/19/13 04:51 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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Ever impulsive, I decided to take a look inside.

Dear god, now I understand why these things have a bit of a reputation for breaking. The case opens easily enough, but it's a surface mount soldered board which sits facing away from you. (Most components are inaccessible without removing the whole thing.) It looks like it's just sitting in there, but some of the components are the tiniest, most fragile looking bits of electronics I've ever seen, and aren't secured at all. In particular, there's one object which is held on by wire leads which are thinner than a human hair. Like silver spider silk. It looked like a capacitor, but I was afraid to even breathe on it, so I didn't find out for sure.

I would strongly recommend against opening these up unless they're broken already. (Mine still works, I consider myself lucky.)

I've decided to just go with just mounting the MFDs to some light-scattering acrylic, which I'll edge-light with an off-the-shelf LED strip light and dimmer.

#3864627 - 11/19/13 11:49 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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Thanks for posting your experience. Did you take any pics?
My MFDs should arrive next Tuesday And I'm an inveterate tinkerer so I might have done the same as you.
I plan on mounting mine on a 20" touchscreen with Helios.
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looks very modernishy-phoney-windows eighty-tabletty like

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#3865030 - 11/20/13 01:17 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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The only modding I did to mine (Cold Gambler will probably appreciate) is modding the wire so it came out the bottom rather than the back. That way I could flush mount it to my panel overlay without the wires getting in the way. If you want I can dig up some pictures for you. I think all I did was melt a groove for the wire with my soldering iron (the cheap iron that is).


I've got a bad feeling about this.....
#3865125 - 11/20/13 06:34 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Cold_Gambler]  
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Originally Posted By: Cold_Gambler
Thanks for posting your experience. Did you take any pics?


Sorry. I was going to if I went through with the mod, but my immediate reaction on opening it was "#%&*$#, I shouldn't have done that" and wanted to close it up again as soon as possible to see if it still worked, so I didn't take any.

#3865482 - 11/20/13 09:41 PM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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It's just the usual green circuit board with markings for buttons. It's not a human brain, lol.

#3865772 - 11/21/13 02:33 PM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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Thanks Hitchhiker smile
I'll probably do that too to get the MFDs to sit nice and flush.


looks very modernishy-phoney-windows eighty-tabletty like

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#3867012 - 11/24/13 02:56 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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Here is a low tech idea for back-lighting your MFD templates.

Get two battery powered LED book lights. Make two enclosures for the back of the MFD's. Imagine rectangular boxes. Cardboard would be easy to cut and tape into the desired shape. Cut a slot into the side of the enclosures near the back. Push the book light through the slot and rotate it until it illuminates the template.

If everything is sealed up, there shouldn't be any undesired light leaking out.

I've probably done a terrible job of describing this idea. I have the MFD's and the book lights. I just need the time to make the two boxes.

#3873207 - 12/08/13 01:03 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: geo111]  
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This is effectively what I ended up doing with the edge-lit acrylic (the book lights work the same way if they're the ones I'm thinking of.) These are probably a cheaper source of small amounts of light-scattering acrylic and LED strips than I got. Only downside is that they're battery powered, and are generally white instead of green. Here's my setup now, with my Freespace 2 inserts:



I'm still waiting for another component which will allow me to adjust the brightness of the backlight. (It's not as bright and washed out now as it is in the photo, even at minimum exposure the camera still sees those as really bright in a dark room.) I kind of wish the inserts were more opaque in the black bits (that's as dark as my printer would go) but it's good enough, I think. All in all, this was very good bang for the buck in terms of time taken - it was only a couple hours' work, although there were a few nights overnight drying for epoxy and spraypaint.

#3873251 - 12/08/13 03:52 AM Re: Modding Thrustmaster MFDs? What are they like inside? [Re: Teiwaz]  
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Hi guys

I have the TM MFD's and had the same issues. I built a box and ran a USB light in from the back. I created a template with a black outline so I could label the buttons.

Sorry about the huge pics but I just grabbed them from my site for a quick reply.

I hope this is helpful. Any questions just ask.
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