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I do have an another question: Will the initial version have single player (and AI of course)?

The initial Early Access version will basically be a "vertical slice" for both MP and SP. So the basics will be there for most features but they won't be complete or fully implemented. The game will be iterated on from there on out until its done. We plan to do bi-weekly build updates during that time.

Sadly that perfectly echoes my own thoughts on Ground Branch now. After they defended Takedown especially.

$25K for a playable demo? I need a new hobby.

The strong defence of Takedown worries me the most!
http://www.serellan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2988-kris-on-kickstarter-and-the-release/



I would support them but with an attitude like this .....


Getting this off my chest i always wondered why these small devs going for SP!
Good AI is the hardest thing to do so why not focus on a outstanding PvP experience?

Not many want PvP for this type of game, and it does not stand out as much for the mainstream. It is a large factor for the failure of the original GB Kickstarter. People wanted an SP/co-op.

With all the moaning and crying aside, from what I’ve seen in the past of Ground Branch in demo vids, it’s always seemed to be a cut or two above what Takedown was trying to achieve imo.

I dropped the same amount of Kickstarter bucks on both though and I only wish Ground Branch would’ve been the first to Kickstart because I think Takedown Kickstarting first might’ve taken the wind out of Ground Branches sail's, no pun intended.

Anyway, I’ll continue to support Ground Branch. Best of luck John and Kris!

$25K to get it into Steam Early Access. From then on it will get funds from people buying into it to fund the game. Kind of like how Eagle Dynamics sells beta aircraft/modules at near full price, though I think GB's initial price will be lower and the initial playable build less complete.

If you are only interested in buying complete products, then you'll have to wait longer. Your choice.

I am going in for $15, assuming Kickstarter takes Paypal.



Because those are plentiful. BF3/4, CoD, whatever. If you want more realistic PvP games, there is RO2, AA3, Insurgency 2, Festung Europa (in development, looks by far the best of the bunch). Tactical shooters as a genre are based in the SP and co-op. Not many want PvP for this type of game, and it does not stand out as much for the mainstream. It is a large factor for the failure of the original GB Kickstarter. People wanted an SP/co-op.

G'day guys. John sent me a link to this post along with a told-you-so kinda message reminding me about being careful what I say in public.

So yes John you were right... again.

Anyways, let us forget Takedown and focus on Ground Branch.

Please?

Steam: As John mentioned, despite it being built into the engine and so the 'easy' route to take, we want a Steam free version. Easier said then done, of course.

Lobby system: We have gone with an approach used in Natural Selection (1 and 2) - a ready room/area. It is a good way to promote communities and gives people something to do while they are waiting for more people to join. Certainly better then staring at a list of names and some menu options.

VOIP: We want built-in 3d VOIP. Whether this is done using an existing system in the engine or we just go for Mumble is yet to be determined.

G'day guys. John sent me a link to this post along with a told-you-so kinda message reminding me about being careful what I say in public.

So yes John you were right... again.

Anyways, let us forget Takedown and focus on Ground Branch.

Please?

Steam: As John mentioned, despite it being built into the engine and so the 'easy' route to take, we want a Steam free version. Easier said then done, of course.

Lobby system: We have gone with an approach used in Natural Selection (1 and 2) - a ready room/area. It is a good way to promote communities and gives people something to do while they are waiting for more people to join. Certainly better then staring at a list of names and some menu options.

VOIP: We want built-in 3d VOIP. Whether this is done using an existing system in the engine or we just go for Mumble is yet to be determined.

The initial Early Access version will basically be a "vertical slice" for both MP and SP. So the basics will be there for most features but they won't be complete or fully implemented. The game will be iterated on from there on out until its done. We plan to do bi-weekly build updates during that time.

If so, I wouldn't have bothered to pledge the $15 I did at the time (because it was just a preorder).

Yeah...another Takedown. Can we name one successful Kickstarter project? Door Kickers ? Was that Kickstarter.

Bottom line is that we don't want another "playable game".

Edit: Also, having worked on an original ghost recon / rainbow six game no longer has any weight for selling new games