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#3999793 - 08/23/14 11:43 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Does anyone know where I can download the original ef 2000 version 2.0?

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#3999885 - 08/23/14 04:57 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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nevermind my previous post. I am actually looking for the original install files of the initial 1.0 release. All I can find are the already installed game files.

#3999909 - 08/23/14 05:53 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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I found the original file myself,

https://archive.org/details/EF_2000_OceanEng

Is it possible to use the DOS (non win95) version with the gfx patch? or is that windows only?

#4000319 - 08/24/14 05:42 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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You actually need one of the DOS versions for Reloaded since it uses DOSBox. Reloaded will work with the original EF2000, TACTCOM, and GFX+; you can even have three separate installations.


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#4005842 - 09/06/14 03:27 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Hi,

I have a copy of EF2000 Super and have downloaded the EF2000 Reloaded software but i'm not sure where to go from there.....any help greatly appreciated.

I'm running windows 8.1 64 bit with Parallels 10 on a macbook pro retina with a 2.8 Ghz i7, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M and Intel Iris Pro, 16GB of DDR3. I have the 32bit version of windows as well if that helps.

I also have a thrustmaster X HOTAS if anyone knows how to make that work as well?

Hope someone can help, the video looks amazing and brings me right back to the nineties, i've looked around for more modern combat flight sims that get the balance between realism and arcade and nothing comes close.

Thanks
Craig

#4010535 - 09/16/14 04:12 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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I just got this thing working, what a chore!

@wireman82, i'll try to boil it down for you but you'll need to check out the TAW wiki to find more detailed instructions.

1. Super EF2000 will not do. You need either vanilla EF2000 or EF2000 V2. I'm sure you're capable of finding a 'disk' of those somewhere. wink

2. They will not install in windows 64 bit, you'll need a 32 bit os (or Virtual machine) to do it. I installed Windows Virtual machine and mounted the CD image in an XP VM. It then installs onto the VM virtual C drive, at which point you copy the files from the virtual C drive to a mapped drive on your actual windows machine.

3. Then you install ef2000 reloaded (which is actually just a dosbox launcher it seems) and point it to the location of your EF2000 install.

4. run the game config from within the reloaded config. (inception!) this will let you setup sound and your joystick.


it took me a few tries to get everything working, about 3 hours of work. Now....doing all this on a Mac running windows??? jeez....who knows.

#4020642 - 10/10/14 10:12 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Finally after a decacde+ time I was ablte to try it. I do not understand many things.

1. Where are the combat ground units in campaign? In some ground mission you can see tanks but in campaign there are not anywhere and you cannot select even as target via mission creation and are not such an option to see them on map.

2. Where are helos from campaign...? Same case as with combat ground units...

3. The AI create target for EF2000 flights only EW stations, airbases, ships and create escort, SEAD and ship attack. What about rest of targets? Is it worth to attack other types of ground targets?

4. If you turn on the supply on campaign map you can see barrels with numbers but in case you fly there you find nothing. What are they?

5. Has anybody ever noticed that fuel flow indicator shows totally wrong value? I have tested in all speed and alt range and it never matched the kg/min flot with measured flow which from measured flow consumption.

6. Has anybody ever noticed that centerline fuel tank gives you 3500 kg fuel instead 3500 lbs fuel? How can it be that never was fixed?

The game is sometimes fun but I simply do not understand these issues and lack of helos and ground combat in campaign.

#4020754 - 10/10/14 03:52 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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This was an early dynamic campaign designed for a 486-66, so you won't have anything Falcon-esque. Much of the ground campaign and supply is abstracted, with base takeovers occurring every 8 hour time increment as a probabilistic algorithm.

Don't worry about the little stuff and enjoy it for what it is: a dynamic campaign of base hopping and attrition where your "score" may or may not determine the outcome of the war (selectable option).


-Home Fries

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- Robert A. Heinlein

The average naval aviator, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy, and caring. These feelings just don't involve anyone else.

#4020937 - 10/10/14 09:29 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Ok, I guessed and understand this, the limitation of dynamic campaign but are combat ground units which nowhere can be found in game...

I'm working on a long article (in Hungarian but maybe later I transle into English) about the evolution of military fighter simulations, only jet sims except some WWII games which have to be mentioned because of their campaigns (1942: The Pacific Air War and SWotL) It is funny that many of sims what I wist to play in '90s I can do only now. Falcon 3.0, Tornado, EF2000, Jane's USAF. Sadly many of older sim cannot be runned now... frown

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#4020945 - 10/10/14 09:43 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: molnibalage]  
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Originally Posted By: molnibalage
Ok, I guessed and understand this, the limitation of dynamic campaign but are combat ground units which nowhere can be found in game...

I'm working on a long article (in Hungarian but maybe later I transle into English) about the evolution of military fighter simulations, only jet sims except some WWII games which have to be mentioned because of their campaigns (1942: The Pacific Air War and SWotL) It is funny that many of sims what I wist to play in '90s I can do only now. Falcon 3.0, Tornado, EF2000, Jane's USAF. Sadly many of older sim cannot be runned now... frown


Well, many still runs decently under DosBoX. I do it. Included Strike Commander, which isn't half bad at all.


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#4020964 - 10/10/14 10:51 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Korea F/A-18, Jane's F-15 are not Dos age games... smile

#4020967 - 10/10/14 11:12 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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I'm pretty sure there's a thread in this forum right about how to make Jane's F15 run under Windows 7.

There's an F18 too smile

World is good. I hope this helps.


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"It takes forever +/- 2 weeks for the A-10 to get anywhere significant..."
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#4020986 - 10/10/14 11:53 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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I'm pretty sure there's a thread in this forum right about how to make Jane's F15 run under Windows 7.
I checked, no joy. frown

#4021082 - 10/11/14 06:33 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: molnibalage]  
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Originally Posted By: molnibalage
I'm pretty sure there's a thread in this forum right about how to make Jane's F15 run under Windows 7.
I checked, no joy. frown


Hi Molni,
Try this, worked for me:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3955059/Re:_Jane%27s_IAF_on_Windows_7/8#Post3955059

Originated from another thread:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3855231/Possible_fix_for_Jane's_F-15_m#Post3855231

A bit painful, cause there's no dedicated F-15 thread, but I spent a lot of time checking these and F-15 is finally working.


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#4021093 - 10/11/14 07:59 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Awesome Staniol.
Thank you!

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#4023566 - 10/17/14 08:34 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Well, this certainly raised my interest in EF2000 beyond "TFX successor to be investigated later"!

It's not for the reason you'd expect, though: I kinda stumbled upon this when researching what old DOS games had VR headset support, most notably the head-trackers in the Forte VFX1 and Virtual i-O i-glasses.

Aside from digging up a few VOGONS threads by Carl Kenner of GlovePIE fame, I didn't think anyone else would actually care enough to emulate any of those head-trackers in a DOSBox build for use with TrackIR and perhaps other modern head-trackers like the one in the Oculus Rift, but lo and behold, someone actually did!

...as long as it's for EF2000, anyway. It hasn't passed the Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri test, and I doubt System Shock will fare any better once I get it all set up.

Nevertheless, the work done there should simplify things considerably if anyone wants to make a VR-oriented version of DOSBox down the road.

All that aside, I didn't think a DOS-era sim like this would have already introduced clickable MFDs and a dynamic campaign. It's certainly come a long way from TFX, and I'm already getting that JSF: Joint Strike Fighter vibe of a nice balance between realism and accessibility.

#4023604 - 10/17/14 11:42 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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It seems that I am responsible for that part of EF2000 Reloaded.

EF2000 doesn't really do anything other than look for the presence of the VFX1, then poll it for position information via Int33. The EF2000 DosBox build was modified to intercept these calls and get the relevant information from the TrackIR driver instead.
If these other games use other features of the VFX1, then they are not going to work without some further effort.

#4066954 - 01/21/15 07:52 AM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Hi Mikew and Homefries,

Thank you so much for bringing back this classic sim. Your amazing work is truly appreciated!

I have a quick question. I downloaded EF2000 (Special Edition) (1996) from a website that I can't seem to remember!The installation went without a hitch. When I click the desktop icon to start the sim, a dosbox (orange) dialogue box comes on and disappears almost immediately, after which the original (grey) DID interface for the game opens up on the screen. Everything works well, except that I can seem to get the joystick (Saitek X45) to work. When I check the Joystick option and return to the game, the plane rolls continuously, and when I try to centre the joystick by hitting alt-c, it crashes to desktop.

I hope you are able to help. This is an awesome sim and brings back memory back from my active simming days in the 90s!

Cheers,
Sean

#4067575 - 01/22/15 01:33 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Sounds like you need to run through the joystick calibration routine in the EF2000 config program.
When doing this, you may notice the joystick movement is 'noisy' in which case you may need to play with the DosBox joystick config settings.

All this activity can be controlled from the EF2000 Reloaded launcher.

#4067692 - 01/22/15 04:43 PM Re: EF2000 Reloaded [Re: HomeFries]  
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Not to be an RTFM-Nazi, but there is also a section in the Reloaded manual that describes setting up your controller in the Config menu, including possible issues with spiking and unresponsive hats.


-Home Fries

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
- Robert A. Heinlein

The average naval aviator, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy, and caring. These feelings just don't involve anyone else.

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