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#3765305 - 04/09/13 09:03 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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A point lost on many apparently. Might as well complain about a new JBL sound system for a Toyota having brake trouble.




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#3765421 - 04/10/13 01:36 AM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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It's hard to keep "who does what" straight. The UH-1 is a DCS module advertised and for sale on ED's site and discussed on ED's forums. One might be forgiven for thinking it's ED's.

#3765735 - 04/10/13 05:53 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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I think it might have been a mistake to allow 3rd parties to call theirs "DCS" because of that.

ED intends DCS to be a brand regardless of who actually makes the modules, but obviously people are going to equate DCS = ED at this point.
Perhaps they need to rethink that and instead make a new term like the worn-out "HD" for it.

Eg you have the DCS Black Shark 2 HD, DCS A-10C HD, DCS Flaming Cliffs 3, DCS P-51D HD, DCS Combined Arms, MiG-21bis HD, UH-1H HD, and so on.
That way people see DCS = ED and HD = A-10C-level modeling even if ED isn't making it.

Obviously using "HD" sucks, it's merely a quick example of how to differentiate the 4 levels of products which are right now ED's DCS and non-DCS level and 3rd party DCS and non-DCS level.



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#3765743 - 04/10/13 06:06 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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IIRC, UH-1 is made by second party, not third. IE it's ED team from another location that created another company for addons.

#3765920 - 04/11/13 02:09 AM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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Most of the non-ED DCS modules have strong ties to ED as I understand it, either related groups or involving lots of cooperation.

I see what you mean Jedi. I like DCS to refer to the interoperable framework. They could add (and strongly suggest others add) a simply "By _____" after the title. DCS Huey by ____.

#3766038 - 04/11/13 10:56 AM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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Mi-8 pilot get the promo video music DCS: UH-1H.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1720636&postcount=60
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Any chance we could have the music file? I would like to have it! Maybe include it with the UH-1 install as a bonus?

No problem!
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UH-1H_Music_128-441.zip (3.89 MB, 39 views)


EvilBivol-1 confirm UH-1H have AFM (Advanced Flight model)

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Huey will have Standart Flight Model or AFM?

The long answer:
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Helicopter velocity is determined using primitive equations that calculate the forces and moments not only at the fuselage center of gravity (CG), but also acting on the turning rotors, the blades of which undergo flapping motions. This makes it possible to model all of the dynamic effects specific to helicopter flight.

The aerodynamic forces acting on the helicopter model are derived as a summation of its individual element parameters: main and tail rotors, fuselage, vertical fin, horizontal stabilizer, pylons, landing skids. Each of these elements is positioned and orientated individually within the airframe local coordinate system and has its own aerodynamic characteristics.

The aerodynamic characteristics of each model element are pre-calculated with special software using numerical methods. In determining the forces and moments acting on the main and tail rotors, the calculations include the axial and longitudinal components of airflow speed, blade pitch, rotor angular velocity, airflow parameters, and blade inertia characteristics.

The aerodynamic forces acting on each model element are determined according to its calculated characteristics in its own coordinate system. This includes local airflow velocity changes in the vicinity of the element as induced by other model elements.

Each element has a damage/destruction capacity that affects the lifting and center of gravity calculations of the model. Damage can be affected either by aerodynamic forces or by physical contact with the ground or other objects. Ground and object contact is modeled using a system of rigid body points.
This was written by a Ph.D. responsible for the Huey dynamics model, which is way above my head, so I may not have translated everything correctly yet. WIP for our new product page.


The short answer: AFM.

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#3766059 - 04/11/13 11:51 AM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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#3766078 - 04/11/13 12:20 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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#3766083 - 04/11/13 12:25 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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OHGOD!OHGOD!OHGOD!OHGOD! x many... Yeah You can tell I'm excited...

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#3766101 - 04/11/13 01:21 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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Hype level, it's OVER 9000!!


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

#3766102 - 04/11/13 01:21 PM Re: DCS:-Huey Startup vid [Re: Nate]  
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