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#3728467 - 01/31/13 09:42 PM Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad?  
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Would love some opinions as well. Thanks!

Helios or iControl
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#3728491 - 01/31/13 10:32 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I've used both. iControl wasn't for me, although the CDU portion was pretty nice. I prefer Helios because it offers more versatility and (2nd, 3rd, 4th) display customization, and/or implementation of physical interfaces.

#3728499 - 01/31/13 10:49 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I guess that would depend on whether you already have an iPad. I found iControl to be great, but I already had the hardware at hand so it made sense to go in that direction.


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#3728502 - 01/31/13 10:59 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I have an iPad3 but if Helios is better I am willing to get a touch screen monitor.


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3728516 - 01/31/13 11:22 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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the iControl really is a good product since you have the iPad it is like $20, but definitely less than a touch screen... however for $10 bucks you could get one of those air display apps and run Helios on the iPad!

#3728532 - 01/31/13 11:50 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I love Helios. Two monitors stacked vertically with helios on the bottom is very immersive. It's like there is a real pit there, switches and all! I had removed my keyboard from my setup almost completely with Helios. Had to add it back in for the DCS aircraft that don't support the switchology.


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2) Runway behind you;
3) Fuel in the truck;
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#3728616 - 02/01/13 01:46 AM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I was thinking of trying my 27" regular monitor on top of a 22" touch-screen but, I can't find a stand that supports anything above 24" that doesn't cost as much as a new monitor frown


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3728798 - 02/01/13 01:04 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Im also thinking about adding a touchscreen monitor to use under my regular monitor. is it possible to get all the switches and instruments on there or will i need multiple touchscreens for this?

I.e. To have 2 display modes, that lets you switch between the dash and the lower consoles?

#3728799 - 02/01/13 01:06 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: Killjoy555]  
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Originally Posted By: Killjoy555
Im also thinking about adding a touchscreen monitor to use under my regular monitor. is it possible to get all the switches and instruments on there or will i need multiple touchscreens for this?

I.e. To have 2 display modes, that lets you switch between the dash and the lower consoles?


It is possible with Helios.
Here's a short video I made with Helios and a 23" touchscreen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqyF-298Ejs

#3728886 - 02/01/13 04:13 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: nirvi]  
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Originally Posted By: nirvi
It is possible with Helios.
Here's a short video I made with Helios and a 23" touchscreen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqyF-298Ejs


Looks pretty cool, I've also seen people using the clickable cockpit with touchscreen. (without Helios)
Does anybody here knows if that works alright? It seemed quite easy on the videos I've seen, I'd think its quite good in combo with T-IR

KJ

#3728906 - 02/01/13 04:49 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Here is my Helios setup:



I've since replaced the base of the Warthog Stick with a smaller metal piece that is bolted to the table, giving lots of room for the mouse.


Fridge
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Things which do you no good in aviation:
1) Altitude above you;
2) Runway behind you;
3) Fuel in the truck;
4) The airspeed you don't have.
#3728915 - 02/01/13 05:00 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Fridge,

Your monitor stands are custom?

I wish that was my desk smile


I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3729039 - 02/01/13 07:54 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I'm actually using three of these: Ergotron LX Arms.

Two are wall mount and one is a desktop mount. Two (desktop and wall) are for the monitors and the third is actually for the keyboard. I managed to get them on sale (about 30-40% off).

Showing the mess behind the monitors:


And a bit more of a side view:


Fridge
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Things which do you no good in aviation:
1) Altitude above you;
2) Runway behind you;
3) Fuel in the truck;
4) The airspeed you don't have.
#3729087 - 02/01/13 09:12 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Very cool. I will have to come up with something. This is my current setup...







I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3729109 - 02/01/13 09:42 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3729214 - 02/02/13 01:23 AM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Helios for me. The IPad app is really good but I got a cheap touch kit for an old 19 inch monitor and went with it. Not the best pic and that's my mate Wilf having a go !
Thing with Helios, once you get the hang of it, is its so easy to alter the setup and layout and try it out with a couple of clicks, really remarkable bit of software.


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#3729312 - 02/02/13 07:38 AM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3729424 - 02/02/13 03:05 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Last edited by UnderTheRadar; 02/02/13 03:05 PM.

I have gaming PCs that run everything from MS-DOS 6.22 to Windows 7 64-bit

Win7 Home Prem 64
i5-3570
ASRock HM77
XFX Radeon HD 6950 2 Gig
8 Gigs GSkill DDR3 1600
500 Gig Samsung 840 SSD
1 TB WD Black SATA II HD
Plextor 24x DVD-RW
ViewSonic VA2702w 1920x1080
HP L2206tm 1920x1080 Multi-Touch Screen
Antec Neo 550w PS
Antec Full Tower Case
Warthog 1663 w/ CH Pro Pedals
TIR4 w/ Clip
Logitech G110 KB
Razer Naga
#3729901 - 02/03/13 04:13 PM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Nice!


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Things which do you no good in aviation:
1) Altitude above you;
2) Runway behind you;
3) Fuel in the truck;
4) The airspeed you don't have.
#3730248 - 02/04/13 06:15 AM Re: Which do you prefer? Helios/touch monitor or iControl/iPad? [Re: UnderTheRadar]  
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Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar
Some monitor stands are as expensive as an obutto pit...

...


And some are not smile

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