Well, we could also argue that the point with Iron Front was to model realistic WWII scenarios that were never or rarelly modeled in any other game (together with a good and strong tank modeling alonside with infantry) which is the case of the Eastern Front scenario and in line with this thought you would or could inded have the British and Canadians in D-Day which SHAMELY was never modeled in any game (at least as far as I remember).
Besides I'm pretty sure that the lack of sucess from Iron Front isn't due to not modeling American units but instead it's due to the fact that Iron Front is still considered by many as a "simple" ArmA2 addon with many of those same players still prefering to play the Invasion 1944 mod for ArmA2 (since it's free) instead (for example I can confirm this within my the comunity of ArmA2 players that I belong). Also the fact that Iron Front was released in a considerably buggy state (and while currently better with the latest patches it's still a bit buggy), having a couple of crappy and unrealistic campaigns (at least the German campaign is), only 2 single missions and a very few multiplayer scenarios certainly didn't help the Iron Front sales.

Finally, I hope you're right and that we will see British/Canadian units in this game as well but something tells me that we won't - I hope to be wrong, of course!

Is this a stand alone release, or do I need to buy something else first? Don't know much about this product, because frankly, when I see Russian Front I change the page. I know I'm in the minority, here, because most of you guys seem to love it.
Saw the Shermans, though, and went..."Hmmmm..."
Are those Thunderbolts flyable? And lastly, is this series worth picking up?

You would have to buy Iron Front 44 Liberation ... Then in december the DLC comes out (which includes the p47)

Not timed very well because Iron front was on sale at steam yesterday for 50% off £9.99 now its back to £19.99

I fully understand the reasons, but i dont have to like em, being a brit its a bit annoying seeing the americans done all the time whilst the entire commenwealth just gets ignored or slaged off as being useless.




It'll be DLC for Iron Front, so you'll need Iron Front first. I'm with you a bit with the russian front, not my first area of intrest so your not alone. I'm guessing the thunderbolts will be flyable. And as to picking it up .. depends if your gonna play co-op with a group of friends or not, if your just gonna play single player then i'd avoid it.

this is awesome- im so tired of the eastern front, hopefully they will have fallshirmjager and new skins for the german armor

The Canadians and British were not at D Day ! Don't you watch movies ?? I guess the fact they joined the war immediately, and fought 2 years before America joined the party is irrelevant.

One of the reasons why i enjoy Hidden and Dangerous 2 so much. A chance to play as a Brit.

as they have called it D Day I am hoping that there will be a beach landing mission/map

if there going for market appeal i'd be surpised if there wasnt a map with a little of the french coast at least.

Looking forward to some bocage missions. It would be great to recreate Winters' gun assault. Maybe an assault through bocage with infantry and a tank in mutual support too

Probably you're not "the minority" and actually I have a similar oppinion as yours (I also don't like the Eastern Front much) but in the end (and IMO) it doesn't matter where and what a simulation models, what it matters (again IMO) is that the simulation is great and in the end (again IMO) Iron Front is a great sim!

looking forward to that mission tigerwolf

Oh no doubt, and I'd bet a round of Beers, we will be slogging up,the slopes of Omaha ! Again !

Problem with beach landings in the ARMA series is they never quite capture the sheer numbers that where involved. I'm looking forward to some inland
Skirmishes though. Better yet with a tin hat and a Lee-Enfield in hand, backed up by a Churchill........

Well the same is also true with any other FPS game - There's no FPS game available today (or in the past) that modeled a D-day beach landing that modeled an accurate number of soldiers (the real number of soldiers in a D-Day beach were always much higher than what it was modeled in any FPS games).
But IMO, there was a Co-op mission in the Invasion 1944 mod for ArmA2 that modeled a believable scenario of the Omaha beach where there was a very big (and believable) number of enemy and friendly soldiers alike in that same scenario! So I don't see why there can't be an Omaha beach mission (for example) with a very big and believable number of soldiers/units in the Iron Front D-Day DLC/addon.

Or Utah ! Or Sword Juno or Gold........just saying.

Look, I'll probably get this DLC, The IF paid Mod does have some saving graces the armour system for tank Battles is good enough to produce a decent fight. The scenery/maps are a league above the stock ARMA maps, though some remarkable Addons have been produced. The Invasion44 lads are working on a Penetration system for Armour and you can't deny their maps are pretty damn good. Also as seen above they have such a remarkable scope of equipment and troops, which is all lovingly crafted by a Gang of dedicated guys and all for aFREE !

Iron Front are onto a good thing they just seem to be wasting the opportunity to expand on the sublime East Front. game they gave us, If you want folk to pay the you have to come up with something over and above the vast and diverse Addons that some very dedicated fans produce. Some of which I would gladly pay for. Helll in the Pacific beta out tommorow, Vietnam The Experience update out already this week and I44 up for a patch soon.

Come on Iron Front ....listen to the troops.

with this DLC it meas we could do a mission based on the classic Kelly's Hero's

Or saving Private Saghen.

the problem with that is everyone will try to shoot him

Also I am wondering how they are going to do this DLC ... will it be like Arma2 dlc ... where everyone gets a low res version and you buy a hi res version and some missions ... or will it be traditional DLC you have to buy it to use it ... if so will the SimHQ server be upgraded with it ?

EDIT

just had a reply from the devs about this question

tempusmuphy: You will get answer for this in the next week, when we will post a FAQ. Also if you have some DLC relate question, feel free to ask them, and we will implement them to the FAQ.

so any questions fire them at the iron front forum

Thanks tempus, good to know they'll be posting that.

The reason IF:L44 never caught on wasn't due to the focus not being on the Americans, nor was it because it wasn't set during operations on the Western Front. The player-base plummeted due to modding, or lack there of.

The developers must approve and sign every addon/mod via PBO before it can be utilized. This is a business model, very much like the one used by EA in regards to BF3. They're more worried about squeezing out DLC sales, and they don't want any cross modding projects that could put that in jeopardy. It isn't open to modding. It is for all intents and purposes, closed.

People should probably recall that OFP and the ArmA series would've long been forgotten about if it wasn't for the mod development community, a community that has far exceeded the games original content and extended its lifespan.

We actually have a Kelly's Heroes mission here at SimHQ. Fatty created it for Arma2/OA. Granted, it's built around modern units, etc., but it's still Kelly's Heroes-like. Pretty cool mission actually, although some squad leaders had difficulty leading it, as they forgot/didn't realize the plot of Kelly's Heroes.