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#3680968 - 11/13/12 06:53 AM NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF  
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I know Nose Wheel Steering (NWS) is the perennial topic which raise its head far too often, but I've never really been successful with implementing of any of the advice until a recent discussion with -Ice. This got me to start testing varies options and do some tweeking of the same. I thought it might be useful to reproduce my findings here and seek input from others as to its accuracy. If you think I'm wrong, or that I've missed something, or "it doesn't work for me"; I'd be pleased to here back from you. I see no point in offering more advice regarding NWS if it doesn't stand up to scrutiny, or worse, if it just doesn't work.

Here's how to NWS in BMS4.32 if you have no rudder pedals.

Keyboard Control
To activate Nose Wheel Steering (NWS) press <SHIFT> plus < / > and steer using the keyboard with <SHIFT> plus <ALT> plus <left arrow> to move left and
<SHIFT> plus <ALT> plus <right arrow> to move right.
Cougar Control
Go to Setup/Controllers/Advanced/View Control and activate the "Enable Roll-link NWS".
Now either,
- go to Setup/Controllers/Advanced/Flight Control and set your Rudder Axis to "Keyboard". This allows for steering with the joystick by moving it left and right.
Or alternatively,
- change the Setup/Controllers/Advanced/Flight Control and set your Rudder Axis to “Toe Brake Right – Joystick”. You can then steer with the Microstick.



Here's how to NWS in AF if you have no rudder pedals.

Keyboard Control
To activate Nose Wheel Steering (NWS) press <SHIFT> plus < / > and steer using the keyboard with < , > to move left and < . > to move right.
Cougar Control
Go to Setup/Controllers and set your Rudder Axis to “Keyboard”. This allows for steering with the joystick by moving it left and right.


Thanks. thumbsup

Last edited by Wombat1940; 11/13/12 06:57 AM.

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#3681016 - 11/13/12 10:28 AM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Oooops! frown I think I need to include in the process(es), the importance of using the correct .key files. [Thanks -Ice]
In other words:
In regard to the .key file. I made the assumption that we are all using 'keystrokes.key' file with AF and 'BMS.key' file with 4.32. I think I'll need to include in the instructions the importance of either using the 'keystrokes.key' file with AF and 'BMS.key' file with 4.32 or pilots needing to use the appropriate key stroke for there own xxxx.key file. Bit like what was done by the boys who wrote the script for the "Ramp Start" Training Mission. But I'm still thinking about it ..... hahaha

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#3681102 - 11/13/12 01:56 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Thanks, Wombat. So you're back in the fold now?


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#3681146 - 11/13/12 03:08 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: HomeFries]  
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Originally Posted By: HomeFries
Thanks, Wombat. So you're back in the fold now?


Never left. Just got a bit distracted. Still working on this NWS issue. Now that I have it working for both AF and BMS, I'm trying to put it into plain English how it works. I've redrafted the BMS instructions you see above, based upon discussions with others, but will hold off posting until I get the AF redrafted. Stay tuned. thumbsup


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#3681414 - 11/13/12 10:09 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Doesn't have to be using the BMS.key file or keystrokes.key file. I know lots of HOTAS profile creators include their own .key files for use with their profile. Just go in the .key file and look for the AFRudderLeft and AFRudderRight callbacks to know what your key combination is for these controls.

However, if you ticked "Enable Roll-linked NWS" and set "Rudder Axis" to Keyboard, it doesn't matter what key combination you use for these two callbacks. I've even tried them with the assignment of "-1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 1" which means "No Key Assigned" and I can still control the aircraft with the joystick.


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#3681557 - 11/14/12 02:18 AM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Doesn't have to be using the BMS.key file or keystrokes.key file. I know lots of HOTAS profile creators include their own .key files for use with their profile. Just go in the .key file and look for the AFRudderLeft and AFRudderRight callbacks to know what your key combination is for these controls.

However, if you ticked "Enable Roll-linked NWS" and set "Rudder Axis" to Keyboard, it doesn't matter what key combination you use for these two callbacks. I've even tried them with the assignment of "-1 0 0XFFFFFFFF 0 0 0 1" which means "No Key Assigned" and I can still control the aircraft with the joystick.


Thanks!!! thumbsup I'll need to digest this s....l....o....w....l....y ...... hahaha


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#3682104 - 11/14/12 08:39 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Simple... if one wants to know the keyboard combination for this, they need to look at the callbacks named AFRudderLeft and AFRudderRight. When viewed in the UI screen, these are called Ctrls-Rudder left and Ctrls-Rudder right by default in the BMS.key file and in the keystrokes.key file. However, it is SHIFT+ALT+Left Arrow and SHIFT+ALT+Right Arrow on BMS.key and it is the comma and period keys on keystrokes.key.

Also, if one is not using the default BMS.key or keystrokes.key file, which is common for those who are using pre-made profiles for the Cougar, Warthog, X-52, etc., the keyboard combination and/or the control names can easily be changed by the profile creator. I'm not saying they certainly did, and I am guessing that most profile creators will leave the default maps alone. For instance, Morphine's profile has retained the name but Kolbe's format renames it to CKPIT: Rudder Left and CKPIT: Rudder Right.

In other words, to be absolutely 100% certain what the key combination is for these commands, it is best to check the callbacks in the .key file. People can change the key combination and/or the description, but the callback will always remain the same, so it is best to point people to the callback.

However, if one simply wants to use the joystick for steering on the ground, whether by preference or by lack of rudder pedals, one simply has to tick "Enable Roll-linked NWS" and make sure the "Rudder Axis" is set to Keyboard and that is it. The actual key combination of these is not important, unless one intends to steer with the keyboard instead of the joystick, in which case there is no need to "Enable Roll-linked NWS" in the first place. Also, as my testing showed, once the above steps are followed, it doesn't even matter if there is a key combination assigned to the AFRudderLeft and AFRudderRight callbacks or not, the joystick will still control steering on the ground even without a key combination present (as shown by "No Key Assigned" in the UI screen). If there is no key combination assigned, steering with the joystick will work but there is obviously no keyboard controls for this.

Hope that clears it up.


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#3682526 - 11/15/12 10:40 AM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Thanks for the comprehensive response to earlier posts. I agree with all you've said above, however I'm going to throw it back to each BMS/AF pilot to make any necessary changes to my instructions should they have alternatives format names and/or key strokes to achieve NWS activation and steering. I haven't included instructional steps on how to identify any of those changes. All I have said is, if there are changes, they have to identify them and make the necessary changes to my instructions. Maybe this bailing out and not the ideal, but I don't wish to include these other steps, important as they are to successful implementation of NWS activation and steering. I'm hoping that the majority of pilots will have, to use your words " ...... I am guessing that most profile creators will leave the default maps alone ......" and that the minority will have enough background knowledge to make the necessary changes.

As I have said elsewhere, its time I moved on and re-commenced my pilot training in the F16. At least I know one person who can now NWS activate and steer in AF and BMS. hahaha

Thanks - Ice ...... its been much appreciated. thumbsup

Now ........ what did <SHIFT> plus <p> do? ........ duh

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#3682529 - 11/15/12 10:49 AM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Well, its not ideal, but hope its of some value. If it doesn't work for others, then I hope it promotes enough ideas on how it might work for you. I've seen nothing as detailed anywhere else, but that doesn't mean its any better than is available anywhere else. If I find any glaring errors I will update it. One thing I have learned: I can now steer with my joystick in AF. But maybe that's not new, just new to me. hahaha

Just to thank particularly - Ice for his valuable advice, Home Fries, Neph and Eugene for their input. thumbsup

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#3682638 - 11/15/12 03:19 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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Returning to base? All you were doing was taxiing! biggrin


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#3683491 - 11/16/12 11:12 PM Re: NWS solutions for BMB4.32 and AF [Re: Wombat1940]  
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He was this far from the ground the whole flight!


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