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#4328744 - 01/15/17 07:43 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems ***** [Re: Hpasp]  
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"GRAVESTONE targeting RADAR screen screen capture shows about a 45-50° scan angle -w- faded return at 60km & possible low # guidance channels"

https://twitter.com/Strat2Intel/status/820429898435166208

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#4328818 - 01/16/17 07:59 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Muggs]  
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GRAVESTONE targeting RADAR screen screen capture shows about a 45-50° scan angle -w- faded return at 60km & possible low



Wrong!
Outside numbers are azimuth in degrees.
Inside arches are usually in 50 or in 100km.

That image above showing 600km range.
Compare with this one showing 300km range.




Last edited by Hpasp; 01/16/17 09:10 AM.

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#4328827 - 01/16/17 09:58 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
GRAVESTONE targeting RADAR screen screen capture shows about a 45-50° scan angle -w- faded return at 60km & possible low



Wrong!
Outside numbers are azimuth in degrees.
Inside arches are usually in 50 or in 100km.

That image above showing 600km range.




Target data:
target code (???) - 06
beta- 123 degrees
distance - 153 km
heigh - 7 km
speed - (-0250) m/s (receding target)
epsilon - +02 degrees

If we see 120 degree mark, it should be in 300 km mode....


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#4328831 - 01/16/17 10:35 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Agreed!


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#4328834 - 01/16/17 11:02 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Agreed!



By the way, I don't like it... Looks too "MIM-104 Patriot"-ish to me... neaner

P.S. I asked you something in PM about Moldova stuff...

#4328856 - 01/16/17 02:15 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Makes sense. Thanks SAM-gods smile

#4330151 - 01/21/17 10:51 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
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#4330952 - 01/24/17 01:58 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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"Russian defense contractor prepares Buk-M3 antiaircraft missile systems for exports"

http://tass.com/defense/926668

#4331280 - 01/25/17 01:05 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Guys, need some good info (from respectful source) about middle range SAM systems trades in recent years - no matter of country.

Thanks in advance!

#4331294 - 01/25/17 02:06 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: piston79]  
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4331384 - 01/25/17 05:56 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Thanks!

Do you have such resume for middle range SAM-s?

#4332010 - 01/27/17 02:03 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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NASAMS-II display (Helsinki);
1 FDC
2 Sentinel
6 MML



Last edited by Hpasp; 01/27/17 02:03 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4332265 - 01/28/17 06:31 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
NASAMS-II display (Helsinki);
1 FDC
2 Sentinel
6 MML




Explain, please..

#4332394 - 01/28/17 04:52 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: piston79]  
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Originally Posted By: piston79
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
NASAMS-II display (Helsinki);
1 FDC
2 Sentinel
6 MML




Explain, please..

HERE
MML probably multi missile launcher?
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MML

Symbols on the indicator screen are quite straightforward. FDC in the center, two radars (Sentinel) near it and six launchers (MML) with three of them having targets assigned to them. Targets have their ID, bearing, position and track visible. On the right there is a target table with target 1326 selected.

#4332610 - 01/29/17 09:30 AM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: piston79]  
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1 FDC (Fire Distribution Center); A
2 Sentinel Radar; A1, A2
6 MML (Multi-Missile Launcher); 1S, 2S, 3S, 4S, 5S, 6S with 6 AMRAAM missile each; A6
(except 2S having 5 AMRAAM; A5)

green circle; 40km effective range
dashed line; missile/launcher assigned for a target
continuous line; target is in the launching zone

Last edited by Hpasp; 01/29/17 11:09 AM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4332639 - 01/29/17 01:51 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
1 FDC (Fire Distribution Center); A
2 Sentinel Radar; A1, A2
6 MML (Multi-Missile Launcher); 1S, 2S, 3S, 4S, 5S, 6S with 6 AMRAAM missile each; A6
(except 2S having 5 AMRAAM; A5)

green circle; 40km effective range
dashed line; missile/launcher assigned for a target
continuous line; target is in the launching zone


Thank you, Hpasp!

Please, could you list me some medium-range SAM-s, and any deal details (if available)?

#4332647 - 01/29/17 02:29 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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I have no information on those, recently most countries are buying Area Denial SAM systems (S-300PMU1/2, Patriot GEM), or ABM capable SAMs (Patriot PAC3).

You can consider NASAMS-II as a middle range modern SAM system, where I have 2 public deals...

2009, Finland paid 346 million Euros for 4 complete batteries; 4x(1 FDC, 2 Sentinel, 6 MML)
2016, Lithuania paid 112 million USD for 2 stripped down batteries 2x(1 FDC, 1 Sentinel, 2 MML)

In 2014, Spain received used Patriot Standard batteries from Germany.
Paid 51 millionUSD for 2 batteries, 10 launchers, and 8 STD missiles.

No other medium range deal is in my papers for the last ~10 years, except Russia donating some used S-300PT/PS systems to friendly ex-Soviet Republics for free...

Last edited by Hpasp; 01/29/17 02:48 PM.

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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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#4333091 - 01/30/17 06:47 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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"Satellite imagery shows that the UAE Air Force and Air Defence have deployed the AN/TPY-2 radar along with its THAAD battery operating near the coast."

http://www.offiziere.ch/?p=30549

#4333097 - 01/30/17 07:25 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
I have no information on those, recently most countries are buying Area Denial SAM systems (S-300PMU1/2, Patriot GEM), or ABM capable SAMs (Patriot PAC3).

You can consider NASAMS-II as a middle range modern SAM system, where I have 2 public deals...

2009, Finland paid 346 million Euros for 4 complete batteries; 4x(1 FDC, 2 Sentinel, 6 MML)
2016, Lithuania paid 112 million USD for 2 stripped down batteries 2x(1 FDC, 1 Sentinel, 2 MML)

In 2014, Spain received used Patriot Standard batteries from Germany.
Paid 51 millionUSD for 2 batteries, 10 launchers, and 8 STD missiles.

No other medium range deal is in my papers for the last ~10 years, except Russia donating some used S-300PT/PS systems to friendly ex-Soviet Republics for free...



Thanks!

It is pretty strange now, with those multi functional systems, to separate them by range....

#4335295 - 02/07/17 02:13 PM Re: News and Videos of not simulated SAM Systems [Re: Hpasp]  
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(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

Book from the author - Soviet Nuclear Weapons in Hungary 1961-1991
https://sites.google.com/view/nuclear-weapons-in-hungary/

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