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#3626684 - 08/15/12 02:45 AM I Don't Quite Understand
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I don't know why I have such a hard time with some things when everyone else isn't, but here goes. I decided to finally install DCS World. I have A-10C and I thought the instructions said that you install World first, than reinstall your module. I did that. My A-10 is still not in DCS World. It says I need to buy it. What am I doing wrong?
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#3626686 - 08/15/12 02:59 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Are you installing A-10C with this file? http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...136&lang=en

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#3626738 - 08/15/12 06:10 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Pooch, it's confusing at first, but you just install DCS World.

But you don't then use your old installation files or CDs for A-10C any more. These will not be used to install A-10C again.

You just download the file that mrskortch linked to, and install that, and you're done.

You don't have to pay for A-10C again, or anything like that, it's just a complete replacement of the old installation.


The version you end up with in DCS World can do things the old version could not do, or could not sustain for more than a few minutes. Like true nappe of the Earth low-level flight and fighting. Thus all Ai flights now behave and perform and survive much better than before. Plus you have much greater planning control, because you know that they can fly almost anything you plan for them now. Plus the Ai waste way less fuel than in all prior versions, so aircraft now have better range and endurance and are thus more likely to complete missions and RTB. And they can all hide and approach more stealthily from behind terrain, so can attack from cover with a much higher elements of surprise, and can escape back into it more reliably.

So you can now go from nothing, to 20 aircraft suddenly pouring over ridge tops and emerging from open valleys, within seconds, and making concerted attacks. It's pretty cool. So all SAMs and AAA now have less opportunities to get hits, if the mission routes and support-packages are planned to coincide with your attacks. Plus fighters have less lead time to intercept attackers, and escorts can approach at low-level with you, then climb up to 20k feet as you launch missiles at targets, so the escorts can cover your attack and RTB. Many new possibilities there now, which did not work before.

So now imagine that, with an nicely de-bugged implementation of the F-15E. We'll need a new and bigger map, to let it stretch out it's legs on those deep-strike Hi-Lo-Hi missions on high-value rear-area targets. i.e. true fastjet interdiction-strike sorties, with A2A self-escorting. grrr

Until then the A-10C will do. biggrin
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#3627614 - 08/16/12 01:43 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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All right, thanks. I had used my orginal installer, that was the problem. I grabbed the one you pointed mt to, and it works exactly the way its supposed to. I'm surprised I didn't have to go and dig up my password and serial number and all that.
Spent last night relearning this. Haven't been flying it for a while, but will now.
Again, thanks for the assist.
Oh, by the way. I hadn't uninstalled my original game. I have two now. Can I safely dump my first one?
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#3627683 - 08/16/12 03:25 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Originally Posted By: Pooch
Oh, by the way. I hadn't uninstalled my original game. I have two now. Can I safely dump my first one?

If you plan to play multiplayer you may want to stick with a dual install of DCS World 1.2.0 and A-10C 1.1.1.1 because the 1.1.1.1 is much more stable currently than World.

Hopefully they get the MP ironed out soon in 1.2.0..
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#3627744 - 08/16/12 05:18 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Thanks, Beach, I guess I'll do that. But, I thought that online play is what DCS World was all about. As a matter of fact, it's why I installed it.
What kind of problem are you guys having?
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#3627748 - 08/16/12 05:25 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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ummm, online play



Plus,
I'll prolly stay on v1.1.1.1 forever. Got a response to my ticket about the missing building units in DCS World and it was disappointing to say the least.
Quote:
Dear Sir,
Static objects can be subject of triggers.
US have block, block on a road and a bunker.
We will consider separating fortifications from other buildings. I personally doubt we will go for it. Fortifications doesn't matter much nowadays as eg. in Middle Ages.


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#3627907 - 08/16/12 11:09 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Wrecking Crew]
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Originally Posted By: Wrecking Crew
ummm, online play

Plus,
I'll prolly stay on v1.1.1.1 forever.

WC

Your loss. Kind of naive I think since the issue should be fixed for next patch. Besides, theres always this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=93110

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#3628068 - 08/17/12 09:46 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: mrskortch]
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Originally Posted By: mrskortch
Kind of naive I think since the issue should be fixed for next patch.


I am hearing conflicting information about whether it will be fixed, or not.

WC

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#3628083 - 08/17/12 10:15 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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I'm hearing paranoia.

There's only one source of information that matters in this respect, and that is ED. They're aware of the problem and they will fix it; they just happen to have networking resources tied up right now in creating a dedicated server.

No one likes it when a bug like this slips out, and it's worse when you can't put people on it right away.
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#3628123 - 08/17/12 11:05 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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umm, you're hearing a big crybaby (ME) whine disappointment about mission builder omissions and getting talked down to as in 'Middle Ages'

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#3628159 - 08/17/12 11:56 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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I don't blame you, but I do want to set the record straight biggrin
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#3628235 - 08/17/12 01:51 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: GrayGhost]
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Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
I don't blame you, but I do want to set the record straight biggrin


Just to be clear. You said there is only one source of information on that (ED) and you are setting the record straight. So are you the official voice of ED? Just curious so we can take what you say as coming direct from ED.

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#3628351 - 08/17/12 05:02 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Well, the smartass answer, "umm...the internet," didn't exactly fill me in on what's going on.
When I asked what the problem is, I meant that it could be graphics related, not being able to connect to the game, not being able to STAY connected to the game, lag....or if really bad, all of the above.
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#3628361 - 08/17/12 05:17 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Originally Posted By: Pooch
Well, the smartass answer, "umm...the internet," didn't exactly fill me in on what's going on.

lol

DCS World seems to have some stability issues in multiplayer. Some folks are reporting that they are getting kicked from their multiplayer session while others are having problems connecting in the first place. It's got some folks pretty bent out of shape about it, as you can tell by the heat in this thread.
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#3628373 - 08/17/12 05:45 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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all of the above, then

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#3628411 - 08/17/12 07:13 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Wrecking Crew, send me one of your missions and I can guarantee I can get it working in 1.2.0 without compromising the content of the mission.

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#3629101 - 08/19/12 09:33 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: BeachAV8R]
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I'm repeating what ED has made clear.

Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R
Just to be clear. You said there is only one source of information on that (ED) and you are setting the record straight. So are you the official voice of ED? Just curious so we can take what you say as coming direct from ED.


Edited by GrayGhost (08/19/12 09:33 AM)
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#3629197 - 08/19/12 11:51 AM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: GrayGhost]
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Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
I'm repeating what ED has made clear.

Perhaps it would be even more clear if you could provide the link to the ED post where this is made clear?
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#3629854 - 08/20/12 02:06 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Clearly that would be clear.





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#3629985 - 08/20/12 05:27 PM Re: I Don't Quite Understand [Re: Pooch]
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Ive not played in over a week due to getting dropped from servers alot frown But I should try single player but then I only play online with games..

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