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#3612888 - 07/24/12 08:45 PM
RAZBAM: Harrier
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During the construction of the cockpit, we wanted to ensure the accuracy of the gauge and structure placement that we went of actual aircraft drawings and photographs. Here is a small video that will show the placement and line up of the drawings and the very 3D cockpit in the upcoming RAZBAM Harrier.     http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1496505&postcount=308Last one is FSX
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Prowler    http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1501121&postcount=311 Hi Prowler, great pics, but I have a question I haven't seen really answered if you're willing to divulge any info on your projects. Are any of them going to be DCS titles where they're comparably complex to the A-10C or are they more aircraft for DCS world that just use the SFM like the LOMAC aircraft? Really happy you're doing the harrier either way, it'll be fun This is how it currently looks..  As complex as current available info allows us to do it, but if your concern is if we´ll go after DCS A-10 level, the answer is yes Best regards Prowler I hope adapting existing FSX projects to DCS gets easier as Razbam gains experience so that many if not all their existing products can ultimately end up being available in DCS. I can't wait In fact..if we try to create a similarity between FSX and DCS, being current version FSX only, it´s a fine equivalent of DCS..in FSX, as it is, it´s extremely complex and accurate, all systems are being replicated as per NATOPS info and beyond (working ordnance in FSX? yeah..that´s us since 2007) now, if you go and take the fact that FSX was not made for many of the stuff in this model (A/G-A/A radar, nav systems, RWR, weapons, VTOL) can you imagine what we can do in a sim where all this stuff is part of the engine? like i said, we go beyond FSX capabilities when we create military stuff in a non military sim.Sure, some will say that they don´t like our stuff, but we have been around almost 10 yrs now, check the release date of our old stuff, we broke the mold in 2007, in 2010 we changed completely the way you can use an add on in FSX (i wont get into discussions about other developer´s creations, so you´re wasting your time here) from the A-7 volumes on, we twisted, bended and squeezed FSX engine, so it can do things it was not supposed to, DCS in the other hand, is a military sim, while we´ll need time to adapt our knowledge into this new frontier we are already in this game of replicating military systems..in a military simulator!.Bottom line, we´ll do this bird as per specs in DCS, just as we are doing it in FSX..where none of this stuff it´s even documented.. Best regards Prowler These are base textures not complete yet..
Best regards
Prowler   http://youtu.be/S3CqyBnP6oo 
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#3613903 - 07/26/12 11:32 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Haha yea let's not lose sight of where the Harrier came from. It's a real pity that the UK government have mothballed all the Harriers/Carriers; totally knackers our presence abroad both for good and sorting out the bad guys. Still at least we have two carriers being built... *cough* and for me as soon as I get a raf skin  you know.... the proper harrier  
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#3613905 - 07/26/12 11:42 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Come on lads, chop chop
Cheers,
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#3613906 - 07/26/12 11:42 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Ebullient joy, tinged with nervous terror of the unknown. What I'm asking is....are RAZBAM any good? I know they do stuff for FSX, but I don't play FSX and have no idea how good they are with FM's. Any opinions out there? I'd imagine an accurate Harrier FM would be a formidable challenge for the code monkeys....and sadly 'Jet Thunder' appears to be dead? The modelling of course speaks for itself even at this stage, looking absolutely beautiful, but all that glitters is not necessarily gold. I understand that 3rd parties have access to the DCS 'standard flight model' but not advanced, this is what worries me a little, because the onus is on RAZBAM and others to come up with something as good (or hopefully even better!). They are very much an unknown quantity to me....hence the worry, which may or may not be justified.  Ideally, I was hoping DCS themselves would make a Harrier, but I suppose this is way better than what we have now (that would nothing lol) and will be watching this closely. Looking forward to the VEAO stuff too, as much as I love the US planes I'm glad that Euros and Brits are being looked after (BAE Hawk looks great.....I watched the Red Arrows in Sunderland last Sunday gone too, which has me in the mood)  and for me as soon as I get a raf skin, you know.... the proper harrier Amen Brother Becks, go tell it on the mountain!  Those Bloody Yanks, pinching our Harriers and....*grumble...mutter* EDIT: Just found out they are apparently making a GR9 for DCS as well. Hallelujah! Carry on, all is well.
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#3615412 - 07/28/12 03:14 PM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Jesus.
Seems every time i log onto this forum i come across another thread about another company creating another plane for DCS. Things are looking good for DCS in the future.
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#3615427 - 07/28/12 03:53 PM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Woew, this would be cool...Helos-hybrid! Go vertical take-off. I've, just, barely learned A-10C and already new planes are popping up. I'm so screwed...lol
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#3617608 - 07/31/12 09:19 PM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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...i'll be buying this both for FSX and DCS
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#3617873 - 08/01/12 06:03 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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...i'll be buying this both for FSX and DCS Well, you've gotta practice for DCS. I believe I'll be getting it for FSX as well.
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#3617877 - 08/01/12 06:07 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Also, from the developer's facebook: CM
Is there an estimated date for releasing the harrier?
Larry Zambrano This month. We have a target date set, but it is internal at this time.
JK You mean August? Awesome, by all means keep the # internal!
Larry Zambrano Yes, it will come out in August. The exact date is TBA
Edit: This is the FSX version btw, just to be clear. They haven't even put it into DCS yet so I think we're still a ways off there.
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#3617891 - 08/01/12 07:06 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Mmmmm. . .. . . I wonder how the flight models will compare between FSX and DCS. IIRC FSX struggles with VTOL performance. Pics look great though. RBG
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#3618051 - 08/01/12 02:15 PM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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No comparison. As Nate pointed out, the FM in DCS is whatever the developer wants to make it. I think you can even plug in external FM engines if you want to, like for example JBSim, but that's IIRC/AFAIK. I wonder how the flight models will compare between FSX and DCS.
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#3619289 - 08/03/12 07:25 AM
Re: RAZBAM: Harrier
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Looks really good. Shame the DCS engine (or the FSX one for that matter) doesn't support tessellation as the canopy bow sure could use a bit of smoothing out.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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