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#3607448 - 07/15/12 02:39 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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Frederf reminded me with his post to mention that I have zooms assigned to Shifted Coolie Hat positions for Zoom In Slow, Zoom Out Slow, Zoom In and Zoom Reset. Mostly I just use Zoom In Slow and Zoom Normal (Reset, whatever it's called).

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#3607449 - 07/15/12 02:43 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Apologies for the lack of info.

You create a .lua file in the /install directory/Config/MonitorSetup folder. For instance, make a "-Ice's 2MFCDs.lua" file. Then open it with Notepad++ and paste in the following lines:
Quote:
_ = function(p) return p; end;
name = _('IceTest1 Monitor 2 MFCDs');
Description = '1 Monitor 2 MFCDs on the left and right bottom corners of the screen';
Viewports =
{
Center =
{
x = 0;
y = 0;
width = screen.width;
height = screen.height;
viewDx = 0;
viewDy = 0;
aspect = 1.777777777777778;
}
}

LEFT_MFCD =
{
x = -10;
y = screen.height - 390;
width = 400;
height = 400;
}

RIGHT_MFCD =
{
x = screen.width - 390;
y = screen.height - 390;
width = 400;
height = 400;
}

UIMainView = Viewports.Center


Then go in the game and select that view settings in the display options somewhere... go to Setup -> System, then select the config on the Monitors dropdown.

With this, you can make a few "setups" and switch between them as needed for testing, though you have to exit the current mission to access the setup screen again.

**NOTE** the above settings was done with a 1920x1080 res monitor. Might be a bit off when using a different res.


Thanks Ice smile
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#3607617 - 07/15/12 08:25 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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I'm hopefully only a few days from getting a TrackIR. I don't know there'd be concessions, I thought it was supposed to enhance everything to awesome. Are you guys saying there's no way to get everything - zoom, side panels in the cockpit etc working?

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#3607645 - 07/15/12 09:13 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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tc -
Stay on target...



I do run it on one monitor. Yes, with Track IR you have 6 degrees of freedom - zoom works fine. But for up front and busy work you will want the snap views, too.

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#3607655 - 07/15/12 09:40 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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For the most part with all the tips and tricks out there I like simple- I lean forward in my seat and the view is fine. And I get a bit of an ab workout! Granted there are times where you'd like to be able to look around in a wide angle and still see your mfcds- but you get pretty good gauging your banks while looking out the canopy and scanning back and forth.

No fear tc. Tir will be all you expect it to be.

Granted there are some view and gunning situations where you'll want easy access to zoom and reset- actually a couple of really good suggestions in here I want to try out. Trim switch plus paddle in particular! Great idea!



Edited by eno75 (07/15/12 09:44 PM)

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#3607769 - 07/16/12 04:18 AM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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TrackIR is great, but when you are hitting the CDU buttons when entering coordinates, you want a "steady" view. You can either look down and hold your head steady or simply use a snap view. biggrin

Don't worry, TIR will still leave you wondering how you ever did without it. Being able to quickly search for the target, then look back into your cockpit so you know where it (target) is in relation to you, that is what TIR can help you with that even a views-mapped-to-a-hat-switch cannot.
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#3607770 - 07/16/12 04:20 AM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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Ice, I've tried the .lua you posted and had it working in sim but is there any way the extracted MFDs can be made smaller? They are too big for my Cougar's, did they fit for you?

I have 27" monitor running at 1920x1080.
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#3607776 - 07/16/12 04:32 AM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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I see. I didn't "fit" the Cougars to them but they should've been the right size. I guess that's the difference between a 24" and a 27".

Play with the values a bit (400) to make it smaller. Note that you have to edit the other values too (screen.width - 390;) so that they "stay" where they are. Fiddle around with the numbers and you'll see what affects what easy enough.
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#3607812 - 07/16/12 07:02 AM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: jack72]
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Thanks for the reassurance guys. Phew!! smile

I can see how you'd want to be able to see the MFCDs AND get the panoramic effect but that's something I expected. I have a shift key assigned to my stick too (plus I'm gaining a hat switch back since I'll have a NEE way of looking around the cockpit!) so I should be fine. Thanks again!

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#3607948 - 07/16/12 12:27 PM Re: How best to view the left and right consules on A10 with trackir [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
I see. I didn't "fit" the Cougars to them but they should've been the right size. I guess that's the difference between a 24" and a 27".

Play with the values a bit (400) to make it smaller. Note that you have to edit the other values too (screen.width - 390;) so that they "stay" where they are. Fiddle around with the numbers and you'll see what affects what easy enough.


Great! Re-sized and Cougars stuck onto monitors with velcro strips smile

But, you mentioned about getting rid of the MFD displays in the actual cockpit, could you let me know how you did that? Cheers

EDIT: Found my answer here http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=70931&page=4 as the .lus's have changed since. In case anyone else wants to do the same.

Quote:
Took me a few minutes, but it's completely different in the 1.1.1.0 patch.
File that needs editing now is <your DCS folder>\Scripts\Aircrafts\_Common\Cockpit\Viewport Handling.lua

On line 31 comment out "render_purpose.GENERAL"
So the complete line looks like this:

purposes = {--render_purpose.GENERAL,

Works for me. MFD's are not rendered in pit anymore, but are on the external displays.
All other displays (CDU, CMS, RWR,...) stay in pit.


Edited by MaceUK33 (07/16/12 12:46 PM)
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