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#3600179 - 07/01/12 02:02 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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The conversation is interesting. I have not played DayZ yet. IMHO, many of the SimHQ people that seem to be having problems understanding the apparent popularity are those who dislike playing RPG games. I think, based on observations here and on YouTube, that DayZ is really nothing more than an RPG set into a good simulator. To enjoy the game, I think you have to put yourself into the role you want to play; the difference here seems to be that DayZ requires much more role playing than many so-called RPG's. That part about having to role-play more than RPGs I completely agree with. I like RPGs (not the Japanese ones though) but I don't care for DayZ. I really think to enjoy DayZ you need to play like the guys in the Youtube vids do. With like-minded people , and then basically play like we did when we played "soldiers" as kids. Without many defined goals, and no "end" to reach, you have to make-believe more than your average game. I just started playing Dead Island again today after a long absence, and it is still my favorite zombie game. If they could make a game like Dead Island, but with more survival aspects and a more open world, I think I'd be very happy. I like how there is a story to Dead Island, with goals and an ending to work toward, but it also lets you mess around and do a little exploring or pointless fun stuff along the way.
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#3600603 - 07/02/12 09:36 AM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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The only thing I don't care for about DayZ is that every dadgum server in the world is running it. Can't find a coop game of OA to save my life.
The zombie apocalypse thing bores the hell out of me, it's so overdone. That's when i break out the filter. If i don't want to play DayZ i type in I44, Warfare etc in the filter.
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#3604155 - 07/09/12 03:09 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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One reason I don't like Dayz is it seems they are over controlling people. From what I understand people can't create their own servers unless they ask permission.( am I wrong?). Secondly there is not a single player mode, despite there was someone who managed to create a single player mission of the mod in the end that person was forced to delete the single mission of Dayz from his website. http://kronzky.info/missions/arma/dayzsp/I have the feeling Dayz creators have more control over the game than BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE ever had. When most of us install a mod we are free to create our own servers and play it with other friends. Also we are free to make our own missions single or multiplayer, which it isn't the case for Dayz. Feels like Dayz creators have gotten control and decides who can create servers or make any new missions with their mod. Bohemia interactive is making a lot of money thanks to this mod so in the end these issues won't matter as long as they keep having good sales.
Edited by jt_medina (07/09/12 03:12 PM)
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#3604174 - 07/09/12 03:38 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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One reason I don't like Dayz is it seems they are over controlling people. From what I understand people can't create their own servers unless they ask permission.( am I wrong?). Secondly there is not a single player mode, despite there was someone who managed to create a single player mission of the mod in the end that person was forced to delete the single mission of Dayz from his website. http://kronzky.info/missions/arma/dayzsp/I have the feeling Dayz creators have more control over the game than BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE ever had. When most of us install a mod we are free to create our own servers and play it with other friends. Also we are free to make our own missions single or multiplayer, which it isn't the case for Dayz. Feels like Dayz creators have gotten control and decides who can create servers or make any new missions with their mod. Bohemia interactive is making a lot of money thanks to this mod so in the end these issues won't matter as long as they keep having good sales. Dean "Rocket" Hall is the lead programmer for DayZ, and even though he does this Mod as a separate project, he is actually an employee of Bohemia, so in an indirect (or maybe direct) way, they are the ones who control who can do what regarding the Mod. http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rocket
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#3604187 - 07/09/12 03:51 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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One reason I don't like Dayz is it seems they are over controlling people. From what I understand people can't create their own servers unless they ask permission.( am I wrong?). Secondly there is not a single player mode, despite there was someone who managed to create a single player mission of the mod in the end that person was forced to delete the single mission of Dayz from his website. http://kronzky.info/missions/arma/dayzsp/I have the feeling Dayz creators have more control over the game than BOHEMIA INTERACTIVE ever had. When most of us install a mod we are free to create our own servers and play it with other friends. Also we are free to make our own missions single or multiplayer, which it isn't the case for Dayz. Feels like Dayz creators have gotten control and decides who can create servers or make any new missions with their mod. Bohemia interactive is making a lot of money thanks to this mod so in the end these issues won't matter as long as they keep having good sales. Dean "Rocket" Hall is the lead programmer for DayZ, and even though he does this Mod as a separate project, he is actually an employee of Bohemia, so in an indirect (or maybe direct) way, they are the ones who control who can do what regarding the Mod. http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Rocket I didn't know he works for Bohemia. Now I can understand the reasons. I still believe there should be a single player version of the mod. I particularly like playing it alone and finding a server takes time and in may cases have bad performance during multiplayer, instead when playing the single player version never had low fps at all.
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#3604201 - 07/09/12 04:17 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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There shouldn't be a single player version this is designed from the ground up to be a multiplayer experience. Rocket the mod creator has stated this repeatedly and doesn't owe anyone a singleplayer version, as for the site that had the mission that was 100% unauthorized. If you want your own server you can apply to host DayZ (AFAIK) but your server needs to meet the mod requirements and it has to be public too. A good number of us play DayZ regularly and while sometimes we have spotty performance (lag/connection wise) the overall experience online is great and usually hassle free. Remember this is still in alpha stage and our participation helps shape the mod and find bugs at the same time. If you can't handle issues and strange things happening you shouldn't be playing an alpha version of anything.
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#3604219 - 07/09/12 04:41 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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There shouldn't be a single player version this is designed from the ground up to be a multiplayer experience. Rocket the mod creator has stated this repeatedly and doesn't owe anyone a singleplayer version, as for the site that had the mission that was 100% unauthorized. If you want your own server you can apply to host DayZ (AFAIK) but your server needs to meet the mod requirements and it has to be public too. A good number of us play DayZ regularly and while sometimes we have spotty performance (lag/connection wise) the overall experience online is great and usually hassle free. Remember this is still in alpha stage and our participation helps shape the mod and find bugs at the same time. If you can't handle issues and strange things happening you shouldn't be playing an alpha version of anything.
Since when a single player mission can be unauthorized?. I make a mission using ACE mod or any other mod and I can play it with other friends. What's the difference?. I played Dayz in single player and it's as valid as doing it multiplayer. where is the problem?. Why does anyone have to apply to host a server that runs Dayz, when I can do it freely using any other mod?. Why does it have to be the exception?.
Edited by jt_medina (07/09/12 04:42 PM)
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#3604233 - 07/09/12 05:04 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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The other mods don't have to connect to the DayZ master server to work. When comparing DayZ to other mods it apples to oranges the only thing similar is that its a mod.
And yes the singleplayer mission was a mission but created using dayZ code and not authorized. I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing but DayZ is 100% supposed to be multiplyer. It may change but for now thats the case. IMHO singleplayer would totally suck the interaction with other humans is the core of the mod.
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#3604243 - 07/09/12 05:22 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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Since when a single player mission can be unauthorized?. I make a mission using ACE mod or any other mod and I can play it with other friends. What's the difference?.
I played Dayz in single player and it's as valid as doing it multiplayer. where is the problem?.
Why does anyone have to apply to host a server that runs Dayz, when I can do it freely using any other mod?. Why does it have to be the exception?.
DayZ is free, and it is the way it is because the dev who made it, and continues to develop it wants it that way, simple as that. For discussion on why that is and to see posts by the dev about it you can check out: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php Not sure that you will get any more satisfactory answers about why DayZ is not as you would expect here on SimHQ, some of us enjoy DayZ (I'm one of them) and some of us don't like it, for those that don't like it I think there are plenty of other Arma2 mods or even Zombie games to check out. If you want to play a singleplayer Arma2 zombie mod see: Dawn of the Apocalypse SP
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#3604287 - 07/09/12 06:28 PM
Re: DayZ sucks IMHO
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I see no value in a single player mod. For me, the Day Z experience is all about fear. I am not afraid of the Zombies, I ma afraid of the bandits. I literally get anxiety about my gear. I do NOT want to lose it. Unless I am intentionally trying to die, the chances of a 1.7.1.5 zombie taking my gear are extremely low.
I understand 1.7.2 zombies are way more aggressive/capable so, that may add a new level of fear but, I have typically only worried about bandits.
I would LOVE a co-op, closed server to bring my friends onboard that do not know ArmA and would get frustrated or be dangerous because of noob mistakes. But, once they get the hang of it, live servers only!
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