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#3604108 - 07/09/12 01:56 PM
Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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It's KRT not Kurt
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I find this hard to believe given that his weapon was holstered http://now.msn.com/now/0708-woman-shot-hug
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#3604110 - 07/09/12 01:59 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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I read about that too... can't see how it technically could happen, even if it went off, wouldn't the bullet go down, unless (and I just thought of this) he had one of those shoulder holsters where the barrel faces back, but down... she must of been a small woman, still can't see it... will wait for more info.
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#3604127 - 07/09/12 02:31 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Yeah, I'm stumped right now too Magnum. Some kind of fancy rig holding the gun differently ? Anyone know what gun?
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#3604129 - 07/09/12 02:33 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Doubt there's much factual info in that news story.
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#3604133 - 07/09/12 02:41 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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surprised no premature jokes popped in yet...
Pierces lung and hits the heart? thats a bit of an off angle..
how about she got shot at her drunken party at 12:30 am, and the mom is just making #%&*$# up to sue the city based on what her drunken friends thought they saw..
Edited by SkateZilla (07/09/12 02:45 PM)
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#3604152 - 07/09/12 03:08 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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My gun has gotten loaded from a few hugs, but they were never enough to make it fire! 
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#3604153 - 07/09/12 03:08 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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It could have been a shoulder holster with a hot gun where the hammer got "thumbed" by accident during the "hug."
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#3604180 - 07/09/12 03:44 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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I don't think everyone is talking about the same gun...
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#3604191 - 07/09/12 04:00 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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#3604194 - 07/09/12 04:07 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Can only hazard a guess on this, one would think that the woman must have somehow got her hands on the pistol in his pants, and then moved it into an upward firing position, and had her finger on the trigger.
That or he was table dancing, and she was really trying to put some money in his pants.
Regardless, I feel pretty certain that alcohol was a contributing factor to this.
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#3604237 - 07/09/12 05:11 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Can only hazard a guess on this, one would think that the woman must have somehow got her hands on the pistol in his pants, and then moved it into an upward firing position, and had her finger on the trigger.
Do you write romance novels on the side Bill?
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#3604240 - 07/09/12 05:16 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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I can imagine his gun going off....his weapon on the other hand unbelievable!!
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#3604257 - 07/09/12 05:43 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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I'm really not seeing how this is possible...
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#3604269 - 07/09/12 05:52 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Well, I guess if you were doing some form of 'Dirty Dancing', you could possibly put the barrel in an angle to do such damage. But that doesn't work with the 'Hug' description.
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#3604271 - 07/09/12 05:54 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Yep. Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but I'd have wiped his hands to check for gunpowder.
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#3604366 - 07/09/12 09:59 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Something about that article stinks to high heaven.
What they describe simply is not possible.Let alone a gun just does not magically go off without the trigger being pulled or someones hands on it.
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#3604389 - 07/09/12 11:01 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Another article I read said the gun was a S&W M&P 40. I'm guessing he had it in a shoulder holster that didn't cover the trigger guard. If the holster was under his left arm and she hugged him from behind that pretty much puts it in line with her heart. I wouldn't really expect criminal charges, but I'll bet there will be a civil lawsuit by the family. Edit: Well, this article specifically says it was holstered on his waistband. That takes the story back to 'essentially impossible'.
Edited by Speedo (07/09/12 11:04 PM)
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#3604436 - 07/10/12 01:13 AM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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One article I read said it was a 'soft' holster. That could mean she pulled the trigger and shot herself.
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#3604608 - 07/10/12 10:54 AM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Another article I read said the gun was a S&W M&P 40. I'm guessing he had it in a shoulder holster that didn't cover the trigger guard. If the holster was under his left arm and she hugged him from behind that pretty much puts it in line with her heart. I wouldn't really expect criminal charges, but I'll bet there will be a civil lawsuit by the family. Edit: Well, this article specifically says it was holstered on his waistband. That takes the story back to 'essentially impossible'. Shoots down, hits ground and ricochets back up and hits victim (like a 1 in 10000000000 chance). the mom is getting stupid in some of these interviews.... any chance of a civil lawsuit will be thrown away by any rookie defense attorney, just off of her comments in interviews. Mapping the discharge residue should help if they are able to do that. get a mannequin, set him up in the position the officer was in, put the officers clothes on it, map the gunshot residue from his clothes, his arm, and the victim to get an Idea of where everything was when the weapon was discharged. TBH, the only position I can see in a late night party setting with a High probability of a random discharge with the barrel facing the victims chest is if he was sitting in a chair and she was kneeling in front of him. from there all that is missing is the manipulation of the waistband and weapon's trigger. Given the lack of actual witnesses (considering it was a party) that saw the shot, the variance in the stories, use your imagination.
Edited by SkateZilla (07/10/12 11:04 AM)
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#3604870 - 07/10/12 07:33 PM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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Another article I read said the gun was a S&W M&P 40. I'm guessing he had it in a shoulder holster that didn't cover the trigger guard. If the holster was under his left arm and she hugged him from behind that pretty much puts it in line with her heart. I wouldn't really expect criminal charges, but I'll bet there will be a civil lawsuit by the family. Edit: Well, this article specifically says it was holstered on his waistband. That takes the story back to 'essentially impossible'. Shoots down, hits ground and ricochets back up and hits victim (like a 1 in 10000000000 chance). the mom is getting stupid in some of these interviews.... any chance of a civil lawsuit will be thrown away by any rookie defense attorney, just off of her comments in interviews. Mapping the discharge residue should help if they are able to do that. get a mannequin, set him up in the position the officer was in, put the officers clothes on it, map the gunshot residue from his clothes, his arm, and the victim to get an Idea of where everything was when the weapon was discharged. TBH, the only position I can see in a late night party setting with a High probability of a random discharge with the barrel facing the victims chest is if he was sitting in a chair and she was kneeling in front of him. from there all that is missing is the manipulation of the waistband and weapon's trigger. Given the lack of actual witnesses (considering it was a party) that saw the shot, the variance in the stories, use your imagination. I think you just hit on the only possible way this scenario could happen, and it occurred to me as I was telling someone, we thought that too.
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#3604980 - 07/11/12 02:06 AM
Re: Woman hugs cop causing his gun to discharge ...?
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A variation of "suicide by cop"? Act amorous, then shoot self?
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