Results and Race Replays

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SimHQ F1 Classic Series: 1971 Grand Prix TRIO

This is intended to be a purely for fun event with relaxed settings.
We hope those of you who have been reluctant to join us for other F1 races
will take some time out of the day to join us.

General Information

Date: Sunday, 15 July
Time: 12 PM EDT
Race Length: 40 minutes each
Sim: rFactor 1.255
Mod: 1971 LE
Tracks: Montjuic, Monza, Watkins Glen
Fuel Setting: 1x
Tire Wear Setting: 1x
Driving Aids: Auto shift, clutch, low setting on traction control, stability control
Setups: Open, but shared with other drivers - all cars drive the same
Damage Multiplier: 25%
Mechanical Failure: Normal
Time Compression: None
Unique Vehicle Check: On
Flag Rules: Off
Pit Lane Speed Limit: None
Open qualifying (all cars on track)
Start type: Standing
Drivers do not need to come to a complete stop to ESC
No spectators to optimize server stability
Drivers can advance the server to the next session during practice
All 3 virtual mirrors available and highly recommended
No Parc Ferme

Event Schedule

No official practice sessions.

12:00 - Qualifying for Montjuic
12:10 - Montjuic 40 minute race
- 5 minute break -
01:00 - Qualifying for Monza
01:10 - Monza 40 minute race
- 5 minute break -
02:00 - Qualifying for Watkins Glen
02:10 - Watkins Glen 40 minute race

Downloads

This is a custom mod so the link is not posted.
After you sign-up, I'll send you the link.
The download includes the League Edition mod and all 3 tracks.
The size is 710MB.

Server

Server Now Available!
SimHQ Motorsports 1
Password: tRio
IP and port provided via PM

Practice Races

Wednesday, July 4th, 8 PM EDT
Saturday, July 7th, 2 PM EDT
Wednesday, July 11th, 8 PM EDT
Saturday, July 14th, 12 PM EDT

Car Teams List

Bellasi
Brabham
BRM
Ferrari
Gunston
Lotus
March
Matra
McLaren
Penske
Surtees
Tyrrell
Williams

Sign Up

Your SimHQ Nickname / Car Number / Car Team

Staniol / 2 / Lotus
Staniol / 5 / World Wide (Monza)

Col Kurtz / 3 / Lotus
Col Kurtz / 28 / Ecurie Bonnier (Monza)

A_Pilavoine / 4 / Ferrari F312B
A_Pilavoine / 4 / Ferrari F312B (Monza)

Ahmad / 5 / Ferrari F312B
Ahmad / 3 / Ferrari F312B (Monza)

Rob_Bakker / 8 / Brabham BT34
Rob_Bakker / 11 / Brabham BT33 (Monza)

Jason White / 8 / March-Alfa Romeo
Jason White / 23 / March-Alfa Romeo (Monza)

StewartForgie / 9 / Tyrrell
StewartForgie / 30 / Tyrrell (Monza)

SteveGee / 10 / Tyrell
SteveGee / 02 / Tyrell (Monza)

henny / 10 / Penske
henny / 25 / STP March(Monza)

Dave Bradley / 15 / Owen BRM
Dave Bradley / 20 / Yardley BRM (monza)

purolator / 20 / Matra
purolator / 12 / Matra (Monza)

Pumbaa666 / 21 / Matra
Pumbaa666 / 21 / Yardley BRM (Monza)

K_Cybulski / 22 / Williams
K_Cybulski / 26 / Williams (Monza)

Frank Steinbach / 25 / Gunston
Frank Steinbach / 14 / Bruce McLaren Motor Racing (Monza)

Darren_Blythe / 27 / Ballasi
Darren_Blythe / 27 / Jolly Club Racing (Monza)

Myrig / 27 / March 711
Myrig / 26 / March (Monza)

mr_hill / 28 / Surtees
mr_hill / TBD / Surtees (Monza)

The mirrors are crap. Does anyone have a fix for those. I had it before, but lost it in a HD change.

EDIT: found it. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3341516/Higher_Resolution_Mirrors.html

As much fun as this looks like, I have to bow out as last months travel plans happen this month instead. Have fun gents. I was just thinking how its been a very long time since we did any F1.

Be sure and check the HUD tachometer to the in-dash one. On the Tyrell's, there's almost a 1500RPM difference. Not sure if it's the same on any of the other cars, but that 1500RPM's will definetly fry an engine.

Surtees. Did I win a prize?

Awww. As much as I love F1, this trio of events falls on my Air Guard weekend.

I may download the series anyway and practice Wednesday, Saturday, and Wednesday though if you'll give me the link.

Holy cow what a huge file! I'll be downloading over night. My transfer rate to the server is at 34k...ouch. 4 hours to go at 35%.

Not YOU... the OTHER Steve (Hill).

Yeah, Joke of the Day !

Could I have the link for this please?

Thanks

Aw man... Slept in...

Will probably miss Saturday practice if it clashes with the rF2 race.

It won't.

rFactor 2 at 12-2 PM EDT
rFactor 1 TRIO starts at 2 PM EDT

Yesterday I tried to do some online practice at Monza. I go to the next track but can't select the Monza cars. Can you make all car available, Doug. That way we can practice online at Monza to. We all just have to make sure we pick the right car for the right track.

Done.

Thanks. Lets see how hard I can crash now at Monza.

Does this make the cars in the mirror look normal? Right now my virtual mirrors looks like the cars are smashed and stretched. It's hard to judge any distance if/when I do see a car in my Vmirrors.

Monza is a blast with these if you can find a good line and hang on to it when the tail gets happy.

The Glenn is a lot of fun, but I need to calm down because we just raced SCES here and I'm still going in to corners like I was in my P2 car (that stuck to the track) and losing it.

The Spanish track...oye! With this kind of car you really have to be going straight to hammer down the throttle. There are NO straight lines on this track...lol!

Watch the engine revs. I've lost more engines in one day of practice than I did with the DRM series...and I lost a few with that one!

The practice races are just about enough fun for me to take, so I'm kind of glad I have Air Guard drill during the actual races.

It is not perfect, but a lot better that the default mirrors.

Hi guys. I'm new here. Are there any cars still available for the Monza race?

Hi Jason and welcome. Yes I am sure there are still cars available. I expect guod will be along shortly and will get you sorted out with the links you will need. Then you will just need to check the first page of this thread for a vacant seat. See you on track.

Ahhhhh ....... Monza ........

Welcome on track with us Jason

Welcome Jason. Just sent you the link to the download. Once you get a chance to check the cars over, please add in here what you want to drive. The first post in this thread shows what cars are already taken.

Tried out the cars. After careful deliberation, I would like to reserve:

#23 March-Alfa Romeo for Monza

Love the sound and the handling

Some pretty good racing today.. but the mod does not feel very good. Not a lot of FFB and very hard to feel the tyres or the brakes. And the tracks are super smooth. Glad we're only using this for 1 day.

You can buy FFB upgrades.

You're right though, there's not a lot of "feel" other than when I hit the wall.

The armco's like a vaccum cleaner once you get on it at all three tracks, but seems to be worse in Spain than anywhere else.

Hey guys. I just saw this. I'd like to sign up.

PM sent.

I should be able to make this!

Who was the "Alex" guy today? At Monza for the first race I thought it was an AI and I bumped him a bit...until I realized he wasn't an AI. Sorry dude!



Practicing with these just for something to do with no other races lined up...and to remind myself why I still don't like F1 of any kind...lol. These cars are so touchy. Every once in awhile I'll get a good lap in and think I can do it again, only to mess up again. I almost finished my first ever race in these today at My Juice, but spun at the last kink to the straightaway right into the pits. Well, I guess I did finish, but I was sliding through pit lane...lol.

LOL, "My Juice".


Problem is Weasy, the race after this one is Indy cars (or NASCAR if Indycars aren't interesting). Is that better?

For some reason I don't have the problems driving IndyCar.

Well, we usually only drive IndyCars on ovals.

I drove IndyCars at Mid Ohio in the National Guard (rFactor) sim a few years ago and beat everyone's times for three laps at a festival




I think it's just the old technology with the 71s, 75s, 79s. The rear end likes to just snap out and there's no real "medium" throttle. It's like a little throttle to max throttle...lol. I know it is there, but my foot likes to go heavy too often because I'm used to cars that have a little more throttle control.

Now I do remember having some fun with new F1 (FSONE?) a few years ago...but there was grip.

I've just never been a fan of the old F1s. I think in our first 79GP series we did I might have had a top 4 or 5 finish in one race, but mostly I didn't finish at all.

Cars TBD:

DaveBradley
henny
Saghen

Any final decision which cars?

Well I'm the complete opposite of you then

Doug, if there is still a spot available for next Sunday I would like to give these cars a try.

I'd love to do a few races using CTDP F1 2006 (I also have an excellent good 2010 mod).

Anyone have any recommendations for the Alfa Romeo radiator setting? Was doing well in the practice race when it blew up halfway. It was set on 2 at the time.

Radiatior isn't the issue as the oil temp stays in the safe range. Check your gearbox, be sure you keep RPM below the red zone, and shift smoothly I blew up twice at the Glen because of overagressive downshifting whereas I never blew around Monza, and this was exactly the same setup (excepted from wings).

Yes, it was the CDTP 2006 mod. We had some great races in those.

Arthur, it shows that we're complete opposites. You run very well and I don't.

henny / 10 / Penske
henny / 25 / STP March(Monza)

Frank Steinbach / 25 / Gunston
Frank Steinbach / 14 / Bruce McLaren Motor Racing (Monza)

Jason be aware that the Hud is off by about 1500RPM on the tacho compared to the Tacho in the car. dont use the hud Tacho to judge your gear changes.

Any chance I could drive the #8 March Alfa Romeo for the Glen round as well?

Think I'll skip Montjuich. It always runs choppy on my computer :P

Sure.

Dave Bradley/15/Owen BRM (P.Rodriquez)
Monza: 20/Yardley/(J. Sieffert)

Thank you

Regarding the practice races on July 11 and July 14: Which tracks will these be on?

Probably all 3 tracks, with a couple of 15-minutes or 5-laps race on each one.

Col Kurtz / 3 / Lotus
Col Kurtz / 28 / Ecurie Bonnier (Monza)

I'd like to see something with either of the CTDP mods, but with a little different format.

Use the individual team physics and divide them into 3 racing "groups". If using 2005 as an example, put the usual race winners in the Minardi, Sauber and Jordans, the middle of the pack guys in the Toyota, Williams, Red Bull and BARs and the slowest guys get the Ferrari, McLaren and Renaults. Have a 3-4 race format with different style tracks at each venue...like Monaco, Spa, Monza and Silverstone.

Yes, all 3. We run one for a couple of short races then move to the next one.

That ain't a bad idea. But for sure, 2006 mod.

G25 dead

Lost the steering exiting the Parabolica...

I know we're getting off topic from the thread...might be something worthy of it's own thread if there's interest, but the CTDP 2006 mod has the ability for the Safety Car to be driven by someone during races. Not sure if it's only available in the League Edition or not...haven't messed with it in quite a while, but it could be an opportunity for our Race Director to get some track time if he's not up to running in the events themselves.

Maybe just an unplug and/or reload drivers?

Well pedals and shifter still work, and I lost the steering progressively, turning less, less, less, and nothing after 30s trying to feel the wheel. Not sure I can do something, even more before Sunday

Disconnect, restart your laptop and try another USB port. From what you're describing, it sounds electrical and not mechanical (FWIW).

Arthur, have you looked at the wheel's response in the Logitech Profiler? If so, does it show a full range of motion?

Yeah, it doesn't move anymore. No response.

That's strange, I felt it as some mechanical failure ... wouldn't surprise me that much after 4 and a half years of intense racing rebooting now.

Is it permanently mounted? If not, maybe a loose connection somewhere inside the wheel housing could be causing the lack of input.

If you felt some sort of mechanical failure, then it could be more.

Permanently mounted, yep.

I now think it's a USB issue, when I plug it in, he has some convulsions - three times, with some strenght, and then the power light is flashing. Logitech software can't detect it.

Yep. Uninstall the Logitech software, remove any residue of folders. Shut down the laptop. Disconnect the wheel. Boot back up without the wheel connected. If you have a jump drive, try it in the USB slots and see if it recognizes the USB device correctly in the ports. Are you running on a USB hub? If yes, direct connect to the laptop.

I thought it worked : G25 detected, everything looked ok... but no, still losing the steering. It seems that when I turn the wheel quickly, it gets lost and doesn't realize i'm turning it.

And same problem again ...

Arthur, is it just the sudden movements that are causing the steering to go away? Or, does it seem to go away after a certain amount of time? If it's a time thing, it could be temperature related maybe.

Answer B Sir ! Good idea, Steve. I'll disassemble it tomorrow, I don't have the tools but I know someone who does. And I have to sleep, alarm clock rings in 7 hours from now

Whatever the result of this will be, thank you very much Doug and Steve for trying the best you can to save my wheel - you are my hopes

damn that sucks Arthur... To me it sounds like a loose power connection, so hopefully it's just a loose wire that's a easy fix... Good luck with it dude...

Hi guys,
because of family, I do not have enough time to practise, and definitely do not want to spend it with car setup.
Do anyone has a setup to share? I do not wanna break record times, the safer the better.

I'll post my setups later this week, probably tomorrow.



Well all seems OK with the wheel, checked everything but it still doesn"t work ... Not temperature-related as it was clean, today it didn't work at all and still doesn't want to run. RIP G25

Man that really sucks... Sounds pretty terminal... Do you have any back up wheel?

Nope, this is my first ever wheel.

EDIT :

In fact I've got a SRWheel, but I really can't race it, it's like playing Mario Kart on Wii A friend has a very old Boeder top racing wheel. It doesn't work of course, but it has no FFB which means a spring that centers the wheel. Better than nothing. Some scotch, and I stuck the SRWheel to the Boeder wheel. I now have a fixed 180-degrees wheel. And I still can use the shifter and the pedals of the G25.

Just did a 1:25.3 around Montjuich - but wow, that's so hard !

I have the SRWheel. It's almost impossible for me to use it and do well.

MY SETUPS :

Watkins Glen : http://www.mediafire.com/?1gs553xlic3nh3s

Montjuich : http://www.mediafire.com/?emsu96oun6f5v4u

Monza : http://www.mediafire.com/?a60z6reaaabg3wf

I cant even do 2 laps of that Spanish track without the engine blowing up. Its causing a bit of concern

You've been out of the game for too long CK! I hope you join us in the next DRM series... that mod got me back into rF1 !

Do not shift late when throttling, do shift late when downshifting and be smooth when upshifting and downshifting, especially with heel-and-toe. Then you should make it

Wow. This version of Montjuich performed much better for me! I guess I'll be taking part in all three races after all

#8 Tea tray wing for Montjuich and The Glen, #23 Sans wing for Monza

Grrrr...I'm really starting to hate my ISP. Just came back online and caused me to miss the last practice race. It better be alright for tomorrow or there could be a postal-style incident in me area.

3.5 hours racing this ... phew !

that's crazy!!!

That´s some dedication, Arthur!!!

well well well.... i can safely say i will be way off the pace just trying to nurse the car home every race LOL cant do more than 2 laps without blowing the engine, not using the normal RF hud as its crap using a different one and i only have rev lights no rev counter lol!

This is my favourite rFHUD:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zy7koadfa91l4fv

Best HUD ever

Damn, having problems with my Fanatec pedals again. Will probably don´t make it in time.

Server has been just been rebooted

Damn, sorry to hear that Frank

Just lost TS too

same

Same here

Hmmmm.

Teamspeak is on the same box as the games now. Rebooted.

Monza qualifying.

If you're having problems connecting, try 108.174.63.66 and don't add a port address.

Well a VERY difficult day, between wheel issue and mismatchs I had to deal with many things

Only manage to make two races.

Montjuich. I did a nice qualifying, got P2 0.6 adrift of Darren. A hell of a start put me first, and then I tried all I could to keep the lead to Darren and Pumbaa. Darren got me once, I take it back in a Kobayashi-style ! Then Pumbaa must have spin somewhere. Two third of the race, Darren got me, but spins a couple of turns later ! Got the lead, made it very safely throught the backmarkers but Rocket Darren was back 2 laps to the end... Final lap, final slight right turn before the finish, he jumped on the inside, we hit, and crossed the line in deep smoke ! He got me. Congrats Darren

Monza. Got pole 0.3 ahead of Darren again, then a flying start and some crazy opening laps - 1.22.8 on lap 2 ! - and I realize I was leading a nice gap to... a McLaren ? Frank ? No Darren anymore ! Well, I kept pushing because Frank is a hell of a racer, got consistent laps ; on the second half he started closing in but I had everything under control. Best lap on the final lap, 1:22.513, even faster than in qualifying ! I'm really happy with that two races.

Then hardware issues prevent me from making the oter races, even though I got P2 on Watkins' grid, only .1 off Darren's pace. At least, I had fun !

Huge apologies to the guys I wrecked out in sprint Monza race, coudn't even see who you were as I lost connexion right after

Darren.
Accept my apologies. Even if I wanted to do intentionally, I couldn't have harm you more.
I am ashamed.

Don't worry Staniol, it's fine. I was just sorry i couldn't swerve in time to avoid that second one. You took a pretty hard hit there, Sorry

Didn't make any difference to my outcome, Even without any other cars to bounce off, I hit a concrete wall and wrecked the car all by myself

Great racing today. Congratulations to all the winners. Thanks Doug for hosting. I did my usual slogging at the back of the field finishing 2 of the races and beating out all the people who DNF'ed or went out for engine or something.

Thank you everyone for a great day of racing. Two podium finishes at Monza! What a pleasant surprise!
Can't wait for Charade '72

For those that had problems finding the server today, get rFconnect.

rFconnect download



And for seeing more servers on the rF lobby you need to change a line in your Multiplayer.ini file (rFacotr\Userdata\{your name}\Multiplayer.ini).

Find the following line:

Concurrent Server Updates="400"

and change it to

Concurrent Server Updates="999"

Some times you still need to refresh, but most of the time you will find your server the first time. Adding a higher number doesn't work.

I had gMotor 2 errors with the mod, no idea what the problem was as this didn't come up in the practice races. I could load the races fine locally though.

I think it where only the 2 of us. And I started the mayhem by running wide, hitting the wall and flipping it right infront of you. Sorry about that.

What a fun mod and a great group to run it with!

Had some problems with my CSP pedals just before the start of the first race, but could solve the problem just in time for the Monza event by partially disasemble them and changing a PCB.
As a Fanatec CSP user you sure got to know your pedals inside out after awhile and that service time is starting to get pit-stop quality.

Monza was a mixed bag for me because right at the start for that 20 min race I lost my FFB and needed some laps to adopt, by which Arthur had already opened a nice gap and it sure didn´t help he was trying to set a new track record every lap. Great driving by him!

Though driving without any FFB was unfamiliar and the wheel felt like a wet noodle after a long day in a pasta machine, I was quite surprised being as fast as I was with FFB after only a few laps.
Must be a Monza thing I guess?!

The race at Watkins Glen was fun and I had some great close racing with Darren and Pumbaa during the first laps.
With both having some bad luck I could open a gap and concentrate on keeping it on the grey stuff for the rest of the race.

Even with some glitches for some of us during the event today, I hope we will do another race series with those cars.
Best racing fun I had for awhile!

Well I had issues with my equipment today whic cost me so I will just chalk this one up to a bad day at the office lol.
Frank if you think this was great racing today you should join us mor often cos this is the quality of racing we usually have irrespective of which mod we happen to be running. These guys are quite honestly the best group of racers I have ever raced with when it comes to the right attitude.

Great but crazy day at the races...

This mod is such a blast... I love it... But so many issues made it crazy... Maybe it was because there were 3 tracks loaded on the server, or maybe it was just a weird internet thing because of the 2 SimHQ Motorsports 1 servers that were up before the races started and it just never cleared up... Until others started having issues I thought it was a anti-Ferrari conspiracy or something with both Ahmad and Arthur coping the most problems... Hard luck guys...

I had some great battles out there today, but just couldn't do better than 2 2nds... Still was a blast...

Thanks to Doug for hosting and all who made the racing possible... Can't wait for the next classic race...

Race Winners!

Congratulations to Darren who won the Montjuic race literally with smoke, luck, and great driving!

Congratulations to Arthur who won the Monza 20 minute race with luck, great driving, and literally... tape!

Congratulations to Darren who won the Monza 10 minute race!

Congratulations to Frank who won the Watkins Glen 40 minute race with smooth and great driving!



What an Event!

...in more ways than one.

I sincerely want to thank everyone for keeping their cool (better than I did!) and staying with the day.

We did get some great racing in, but it took everyone to work with the mess and maintain composure. So thank you!

We did pretty good on attendance with just a few of those that signed-up missing the event. Considering we had IP roulette, that in itself is a minor miracle!





Results

Race 1 - Montjuic (25 minute)
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/r...juic/index.html

Race 2 - Monza (20 minute)
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/r...nute/index.html

Race 3 - Monza (10 minute)
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/r...nute/index.html

Race 4 - Watkins Glen (40 minute)
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/r...Glen/index.html

Replays for all races (~27MB)
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2012_F1_1971_TRIO/replays.zip

XML Results for all races
http://SimHQ.net/downloads/motorsports/rfactor/SimHQ_2012_F1_1971_TRIO/xml_results.zip

Sounds like there was some good racing, even with any technical problems. That era's one of my favorite.

Sorry I missed it, had something come up pretty unexpectedly that took up most of my Sunday. It figures, I was at least able to see the Top 5 in these cars most of the time at all the tracks so I was bound to miss it...oh well, things happen.

Well I managed to fix my issues! I think that reinstall over the old install I tried on the server didn't work so I totally deleted that install of RF lite and copied over a new version. I then installed the F1 71mod in that and My sound problems are no more. I have no idea what was causing the issue as even without teamspeak, the sound would still disappear. Moving the level in the mixer would work for a while then the fault would re-appear even with the speaker control highlited as suggested by Doug. rFactor sure has some strange ways about it but I am posting this here just in case anyone has the same problem with their sounds. It seems the best fix for anything going awry in rFactor is "Clean install from Scratch"

For me it was pure pain and struggle.
I was out of town last week, and arrived home 1 hour before the races.
I realised that I choose a turbine car for monza, whith only 1 gear, so I had to do some serious setup in that one hour.
I had that bad feeling before every race, which I had in the 1986 F1 mod, my first series with you guys.
I couldn't handle the throttle smooth enough to keep these beasts straight, I just prayed through the event, not to ruin anyone's race.
Despite that, I had fun, it was a huge challenge just to stay on track.
Surprisingly, I was quite OK with the turbine car at monza, however, for the last 10 minutes I had to use it on 75% power only, because of overheating. I could pull of a good result during the sprint race, but made some stupid braking mistake (even with that, I managed to stay in the lead lap, which I consider a huge achievement).
At Glen, I was quite OK, but when I managed to hit Darren 2 times in 20 secs, I decided to quit, just to keep away from traffic.
Next time I wont jump in a car like this without any practise.
Anyway, I still really enjoyed it, and would do it again.
Thanks

(But, there is no f***n way I would sit in any of these in real life)

I would pay for

Congrats Darren, looks like you won by about 3 car widths

(just kidding of course )