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#3601032 - 07/03/12 03:07 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: stendec]
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Originally Posted By: stendec
Are you guys running this with all assists off? I love this mod but I suspect my pace would be a tad slow. I think I'd gain a second or two on most tracks by left foot braking and paddle shifting but it just feels wrong in these cars . . heel and toe feels more rewarding but slower in my case.


I fully expect some runners to use TC as there were a few in the DRM series that just finished...

I'm not really sure as to what aids were available other than auto clutch and TC as I haven't run with driver aids since the 1985 F1 race here... I'm sure Doug or someone can clear that up for us...
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#3601044 - 07/03/12 04:09 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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Not sure as i didn't use any either but i *think* we had all three levels of TC and low SC available.
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#3601051 - 07/03/12 04:38 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Pumbaa666]
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Originally Posted By: Pumbaa666
Here's the CSGT version...

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=70%20Nordschleife

WARNING!!!

The download link on rfcentral to the 70s version has set off some people's security settings and mine has blocked it so it's not working for me...

I've got the version on file and I'm sending it off to Doug to be shared here for others opinions of it...


It's got a few pros and cons when compared to the 2007 version...

Pros
Layout much closer to the time frame of the DRMs
no where near as many things to crash into eg. armco
no GP layout
The old pits and Sud Kurve
the main straight still has it's dips and jumps
the pits supports 47 cars
It's a converted GPL tack

Cons
Not as graphically awesome as the 2007 version
There's a few glitches if you stray too far off track and flip it (eg. rear wheel under the grass)
Less collision objects, as most of the hedges and trees can just be driven through
a couple of the corners feel very different from the 2007 and look different from footage I've seen


I'm kinda torn between the 2, although I'm still leaning towards the 70s version simply because it's closer to what these cars ran on and it will allow drivers to make mistakes without crunching the armco...


Thanks Pumbba, i'll put this through scruteneering biggrin

Most importantly it has to stand up from a technical standpoint. The other version has the advantage of being pretty well tested and we can be confident it will work. But i like the sound of this on grounds of realism.
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#3601101 - 07/03/12 07:45 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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^ The graphics also can't be too rubbish...

Here's a quicker link to DRM 2.02

http://www.drivingitalia.net/forum/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=3327
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#3601215 - 07/03/12 11:43 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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There is also a 1975 version by motorfx that might be worth a look? Its available here.
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35466
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#3601220 - 07/03/12 11:46 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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That's basically just the 70's version with extra Armco, kerbing and advertisements for the mid/late 70's era. I quite like it actually, and having the old school start/finish loop is awesome. smile
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#3601221 - 07/03/12 11:48 AM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: stendec]
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Originally Posted By: stendec
Are you guys running this with all assists off? I love this mod but I suspect my pace would be a tad slow. I think I'd gain a second or two on most tracks by left foot braking and paddle shifting but it just feels wrong in these cars . . heel and toe feels more rewarding but slower in my case.


I personally don't run any assist, even clutch and auto-blip/lift, and use a manual H-shifter with the three pedals and heel-and-toe. Not slower if you deal well with your feet. Don't forget you can brake with your left foot when you don't have to shift down wink
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#3601246 - 07/03/12 12:57 PM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: stewartforgie]
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Originally Posted By: stewartforgie
There is also a 1975 version by motorfx that might be worth a look? Its available here.
http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=35466


Awesome it looks to have a couple of fixes that were problematic for the 1970 version... Awesome Stew... Will try it out tomorrow...
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#3601809 - 07/04/12 02:08 PM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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Ok guys. I had a go into DRM's .HDV and engine files and changed a few settings here and there. Around Catalunya and driving a fast but not flying lap, I got all cars in the same tenth.



List of changes :

M1 : weight -
935 : weight +
Capri : /
Celica : weight +
Beta : power ++, weight -, downforce +
320 : power ++, weight +, downforce +, drag +
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......... DRM Pro : Runner-up
......... DRM Sprint Pro : 3rd
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#3602001 - 07/04/12 11:09 PM Re: DRM Nordschleife Unofficial Discussion [Re: Darren_Blythe]
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Nice work Arthur!!!

It does look like the M1 relies on it's power a lot still.. But that still leaves a bit of a difference between the cars... I wouldn't mind seeing a similar demo from a more flowing track with a longer straight, but you aren't far off at all by the looks of that vid... well done...

I tried out the 75 version of the Nordschleife and although it had more armco and is a little closer to the actual track raced, there were a few too many occasions that I was left bush bashing for a couple of kilometres on the wrong side of the armco thanks to a flip over it, or sliding through a gap in the armco... I think most of us would find the gap or flip over it... So unfortunately our resident track doctor has some work to do on either 70s version to make it up to scratch for a enduro race...
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