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#3596246 - 06/23/12 02:12 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
farokh farokh Member Registered: 04/22/12 Posts: 611 Loc: IRAN	Originally Posted By: Hpasp Originally Posted By: jazjar what new systems besides the Nike Hercules can we look forward to, or is that the last one? Nike is just an idea (one of the several possibilities), but I have not started (committed) for developing it. (No photo-shots were taken) SAM Simulator future development can take several different routes, but currently nothing is concrete. I will share any future options, when they become realistic here first. i realy realy happiness that develop nike hercules was only idea! acctully we need system's develop for senarios! im not sure nike hercules has any senarios in real life! for example we need reality sam system that at real senario worked! of course when mr.hpasP can develope sa-6 we have more position on senarios! because sa-6 used at cairo - libyan - operation allied forces ! this is huge !
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#3596270 - 06/23/12 03:11 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
piston79 Member Registered: 09/02/11 Posts: 871	Originally Posted By: Hpasp Bug. Hm..., i start wondering if we launch on Rab po K3, and push "Vozvrat", should it going to explode? Originally Posted By: Hpasp How? The V760 has no radio proximity fuse, so no point to use it with I87V. i mean not the guiding method, but calculating killing envelope (it remains "Rab po K3").
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#3596272 - 06/23/12 03:27 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
jazjar Member Registered: 06/24/11 Posts: 212 Loc: you would look here!	4:40am 19th of December 1972 Night-1, Wave-3 of the Linebacker-II raid against Hanoi. Targets: Kinh No Industrial Complex - 6 cells of B-52s (18) Gia Lam Rail Road Yard - 4 cells of B-52s (12) Hanoi Radio - 7 cells of B-52s (21) Supporting force: 36 F-4 Phantom-II 6 F-105G Wild Weasel 2 EB-66B Destroyer 2 EA-6B Prowler 1 EC-135 Looking Glass 1 EC-121H AWACS. S-75M3 Volkhov 00:01:43, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 45km Target azimuth: 287° Target elevation: 13° Target altitude: 10.4km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:02:20, Missile exploded on Channel-1 00:02:37, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 40km Target azimuth: 295° Target elevation: 15° Target altitude: 10.4km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:03:11, Missile exploded on Channel-2 This is with rab. ot vm., USU ZAGRUB RV, and I87V. Launching at the B-52s Edited by jazjar (06/23/12 03:27 PM)
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#3596284 - 06/23/12 03:53 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
jazjar Member Registered: 06/24/11 Posts: 212 Loc: you would look here!	The missiles are detonating before they reach the targets.
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#3596451 - 06/24/12 12:46 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
Lonewolf357 Member Registered: 01/12/12 Posts: 169	Originally Posted By: Hpasp Originally Posted By: jazjar Hey Hpasp, in the Hanoi Linebacker 2 scenarios, why is it that even with the USU chaff mode on, no rabota ot vremia on, and I87 V are my missiles still being detonated prematurely? This is with the Volkhov. Hmmm, what radio proxy fuse setting did you used? I tried RAB.OT.VM + USU ZAGRUB RV + I87V, and it worked as advertised. Just tried this configuration (RAB.OT.VM + USU ZAGRUB RV + I87V) on Dec. 26. Here's the results: Click to reveal.. S-75M3 Volkhov 00:00:00, B-52D Snow-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Slate-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:00, B-52D Rust-01 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:00, B-52D Maroon-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Amber-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Black-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Ruby-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Rainbow-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Pink-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D White-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Ivory-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Snow-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Slate-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:08, B-52D Rust-02 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:08, B-52D Maroon-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Amber-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Black-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Ruby-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Rainbow-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Pink-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D White-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Ivory-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Snow-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Slate-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:40, B-52D Rust-03 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:40, B-52D Maroon-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Amber-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Black-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Ruby-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Rainbow-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Pink-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D White-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Ivory-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:44, B-52D Cream-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:00, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 14km Target azimuth: 339° Target elevation: 48° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:01:02, B-52D Cream-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:19, B-52D Cream-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:23, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Black-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 35m) 00:01:41, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 45° Target elevation: 33° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:01:46, B-52D Indigo-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:47, B-52D Indigo-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Indigo-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Yellow-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:52, B-52D Yellow-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:56, B-52D Yellow-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:02:13, B-52D Lilac-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:21, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Black-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m) 00:02:24, B-52D Silver-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:27, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 23km Target azimuth: 51° Target elevation: 27° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:02:28, B-52D Lilac-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:45, B-52D Lilac-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:03:14, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Black-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 32m) 00:03:26, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 21km Target azimuth: 90° Target elevation: 31° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:03:51, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Slate-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 16m) 00:03:59, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 18km Target azimuth: 101° Target elevation: 36° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:16, B-52D Brown-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:18, B-52D Brown-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:19, B-52D Brown-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:21, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Slate-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 34m) 00:04:28, B-52D Ebony-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:32, B-52D Ebony-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:35, B-52D Ebony-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:38, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 22km Target azimuth: 120° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:42, B-52D Red-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:42, B-52D Red-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:48, B-52D Red-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:05:26, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D White-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m) 00:05:33, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 24km Target azimuth: 125° Target elevation: 28° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:05:41, B-52D Pinto-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:05:50, B-52D Pinto-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:05, B-52D Pinto-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:22, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D White-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 7m) 00:06:31, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 20km Target azimuth: 128° Target elevation: 35° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:06:39, B-52D Ash-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:07:02, B-52D Smoke-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:05, B-52D Smoke-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:10, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Ivory-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 25m) 00:07:10, B-52D Smoke-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:10, B-52D Gold-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:17, B-52D Gold-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:26, B-52D Gold-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:27, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 129° Target elevation: 36° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:07:48, B-52D Cobalt-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:07:56, B-52D Cobalt-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:07, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Ivory-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m) 00:08:12, B-52D Cobalt-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:23, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 23km Target azimuth: 171° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:08:43, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 24km Target azimuth: 182° Target elevation: 28° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:08:58, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Silver-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 21m) 00:09:19, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Silver-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 24m) 00:09:28, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 27km Target azimuth: 202° Target elevation: 24° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:10:12, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Silver-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 36m) 00:10:26, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 289° Target elevation: 31° Target altitude: 10,3km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:11:02, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Lilac-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 13m) Total, SNR On Air Time: 1min 36sec Shooting those poor BUFF's with Volhov, with all of its features, is like shooting a fish in the barrel... Too bad there weren't Volhovs in Vietnam...
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#3596479 - 06/24/12 02:48 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
Hpasp Member Registered: 12/31/09 Posts: 1710 Loc: Hungary, Europe	Originally Posted By: piston79 Hm..., i start wondering if we launch on Rab po K3, and push "Vozvrat", should it going to explode? Yes, VOZVRAT sends out the same K3 command as the arming, just it sends it out second time. _________________________ Hpasp Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch" http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History. (U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3596481 - 06/24/12 03:00 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lonewolf357]
Hpasp Member Registered: 12/31/09 Posts: 1710 Loc: Hungary, Europe	Originally Posted By: Lonewolf357 Click to reveal.. Originally Posted By: Hpasp Originally Posted By: jazjar Hey Hpasp, in the Hanoi Linebacker 2 scenarios, why is it that even with the USU chaff mode on, no rabota ot vremia on, and I87 V are my missiles still being detonated prematurely? This is with the Volkhov. Hmmm, what radio proxy fuse setting did you used? I tried RAB.OT.VM + USU ZAGRUB RV + I87V, and it worked as advertised. Just tried this configuration (RAB.OT.VM + USU ZAGRUB RV + I87V) on Dec. 26. Here's the results: [spoiler]S-75M3 Volkhov 00:00:00, B-52D Snow-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Slate-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:00, B-52D Rust-01 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:00, B-52D Maroon-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Amber-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Black-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Ruby-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Rainbow-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Pink-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D White-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Ivory-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Snow-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Slate-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:08, B-52D Rust-02 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:08, B-52D Maroon-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Amber-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Black-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Ruby-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Rainbow-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Pink-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D White-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Ivory-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Snow-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Slate-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:40, B-52D Rust-03 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:40, B-52D Maroon-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Amber-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Black-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Ruby-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Rainbow-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Pink-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D White-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Ivory-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:44, B-52D Cream-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:00, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 14km Target azimuth: 339° Target elevation: 48° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: Wide Beam - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:01:02, B-52D Cream-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:19, B-52D Cream-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:23, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Black-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 35m) 00:01:41, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 45° Target elevation: 33° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:01:46, B-52D Indigo-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:47, B-52D Indigo-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Indigo-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Yellow-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:52, B-52D Yellow-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:56, B-52D Yellow-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:02:13, B-52D Lilac-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:21, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Black-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m) 00:02:24, B-52D Silver-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:27, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 23km Target azimuth: 51° Target elevation: 27° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:02:28, B-52D Lilac-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:45, B-52D Lilac-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:03:14, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Black-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 32m) 00:03:26, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 21km Target azimuth: 90° Target elevation: 31° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:03:51, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Slate-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 16m) 00:03:59, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 18km Target azimuth: 101° Target elevation: 36° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:16, B-52D Brown-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:18, B-52D Brown-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:19, B-52D Brown-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:21, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Slate-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 34m) 00:04:28, B-52D Ebony-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:32, B-52D Ebony-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:35, B-52D Ebony-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:38, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 22km Target azimuth: 120° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:42, B-52D Red-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:42, B-52D Red-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:48, B-52D Red-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:05:26, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D White-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m) 00:05:33, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 24km Target azimuth: 125° Target elevation: 28° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:05:41, B-52D Pinto-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:05:50, B-52D Pinto-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:05, B-52D Pinto-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:22, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D White-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 7m) 00:06:31, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 20km Target azimuth: 128° Target elevation: 35° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:06:39, B-52D Ash-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:07:02, B-52D Smoke-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:05, B-52D Smoke-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:10, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Ivory-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 25m) 00:07:10, B-52D Smoke-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:10, B-52D Gold-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:17, B-52D Gold-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:26, B-52D Gold-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:27, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 129° Target elevation: 36° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:07:48, B-52D Cobalt-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:07:56, B-52D Cobalt-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:07, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Ivory-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m) 00:08:12, B-52D Cobalt-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:23, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 23km Target azimuth: 171° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:08:43, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 24km Target azimuth: 182° Target elevation: 28° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:08:58, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Silver-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 21m) 00:09:19, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Silver-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 24m) 00:09:28, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 27km Target azimuth: 202° Target elevation: 24° Target altitude: 11,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:10:12, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Silver-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 36m) 00:10:26, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 289° Target elevation: 31° Target altitude: 10,3km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:11:02, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Lilac-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 13m) Total, SNR On Air Time: 1min 36sec Shooting those poor BUFF's with Volhov, with all of its features, is like shooting a fish in the barrel... Too bad there weren't Volhovs in Vietnam... Now you can feel, what those Soviet advisors in Hanoi felt... ... they asked several times for Volhov and Neva, but Moscow always rejected. (Neva arrived in '73 only) Anyway, all action has a reaction. In case Volhov had been introduced into SEA theater, the US would learned and reacted its capability somehow. Technology itself almost never makes winners... Edited by Hpasp (06/24/12 03:05 AM) _________________________ Hpasp Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch" http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History. (U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3596514 - 06/24/12 06:13 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
piston79 Member Registered: 09/02/11 Posts: 871	Hi, guys! About this ZAGRUB USU issue... I believe that it is not working with 5Ya23 (V-759) type of missile... Anyway about the tactic, I would quiote the Vintorez's advanced manual: Click to reveal.. Quote: 20 – „Rab ot VM” – arming radio fuse 11 sec. after launch How it works: Missile should know when to arm its radio proximity fuse. This is the crucial point. If it is not armed, than it will fly beside the target, and will not explode. Usually the radio fuse is armed by the K3 command. The moment of sending this command is depending on the distance of the target (it should be on about 300 m distance before pre-calculated point of impact). The reason to arm radio fuse 300 m before the boresight is that 300 m is considered a warhead’s effective hit radius. If target attempts to jam radio fuse (that means, to prematurely detonate the missile, because radio fuse detonates the missile if it receives a signal on its working frequency), the SNR allows him to do it only in the distance that he would cause explosion resulting in a hit. In some conditions (active jamming) it is impossible to determine distance to the target. This is the option which allows to arm the radio fuse. It should be set before launch. The shortcoming is the possibility of premature detonation due to chaffs/ground clutters (likely under B-52 formations in Linebacker II scenarios) and active jamming on radio fuse, especially on older type of missiles (not simulated so far). There is two method in this case. One is the I87V, when you guess (or roughly know, e.g. from P-18) the target range, and the missile in result will be armed, on average, a few km before the range boresight. The other advanced method is this Rab-ot-VM, where you arm it right after launch, by flipping Rab-ot-VM up. The Rab-ot-VM (“rabota ot vremia”) means “work by clock/time”. After the launch, a clock is started in the missile, and after 11 seconds (at approx 7km from the launcher), it arms the radio proximity fuse. The catch is that if the enemy is jamming the radio proximity fuse frequency or laying chaff, then they can pop it up well before the target. Battle value: (1) Use only in connection with T/T as the only guidance method independent from exact distance determination. (2) Use if you are not sure about distance to the target, but sure enough it is in your kill envelope. Use I87V as your first-instance aid, and consider Rab-ot-VM only next. (3) Rab-ot-VM is of some use when shooting at low-altitude jamming targets. A “chaff corridor” detonating your missiles before the target, is conceivable only for high-altitude targets. In such case, do not forget to switch radio fuse 100-m sensitivity on. Edited by piston79 (06/24/12 07:50 AM) Edit Reason: Corection
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#3596901 - 06/25/12 12:39 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: piston79]
Lonewolf357 Member Registered: 01/12/12 Posts: 169	Originally Posted By: piston79 Hi, guys! About this ZAGRUB USU issue... I believe that it is not working with 5Ya23 (V-759) type of missile... Hmm, worked for me pretty well with V-759, although I believe one of missiles (#2) did detonate prematurely: Click to reveal.. S-75M3 Volkhov 00:00:00, B-52D Snow-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Slate-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:00, B-52D Rust-01 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:00, B-52D Maroon-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Amber-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:00, B-52D Black-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Ruby-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Rainbow-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:00, B-52D Pink-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D White-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:00, B-52D Ivory-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Snow-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Slate-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:08, B-52D Rust-02 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:08, B-52D Maroon-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Amber-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:08, B-52D Black-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Ruby-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Rainbow-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:08, B-52D Pink-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D White-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:08, B-52D Ivory-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Snow-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Slate-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:00:40, B-52D Rust-03 bombed SAM Site VN-549. 00:00:40, B-52D Maroon-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Amber-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:00:40, B-52D Black-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Ruby-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Rainbow-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:00:40, B-52D Pink-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D White-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:40, B-52D Ivory-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:00:44, B-52D Cream-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:00:51, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 15km Target azimuth: 149° Target elevation: 45° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: UPR (Half Lead) 00:01:02, B-52D Cream-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:19, B-52D Cream-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:01:23, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Pink-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 24m) 00:01:32, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 18km Target azimuth: 130° Target elevation: 36° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:01:46, B-52D Indigo-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:47, B-52D Indigo-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Indigo-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:01:50, B-52D Yellow-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:52, B-52D Yellow-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:01:56, B-52D Yellow-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:02:13, B-52D Lilac-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:19, B-52D Silver-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:24, B-52D Silver-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:02:28, B-52D Lilac-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:02:31, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 18km Target azimuth: 127° Target elevation: 35° Target altitude: 10,9km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:02:45, B-52D Lilac-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:03:13, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Pink-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 11m) 00:03:42, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 25km Target azimuth: 183° Target elevation: 29° Target altitude: 12,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:16, B-52D Brown-02 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:18, B-52D Brown-01 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:19, B-52D Brown-03 bombed Kinh No Complex. 00:04:19, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Maroon-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 18m) 00:04:21, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 25km Target azimuth: 203° Target elevation: 24° Target altitude: 10,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:04:28, B-52D Ebony-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:32, B-52D Ebony-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:35, B-52D Ebony-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:04:42, B-52D Red-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:42, B-52D Red-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:04:48, B-52D Red-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:05:08, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Maroon-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 29m) 00:05:16, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 31km Target azimuth: 213° Target elevation: 19° Target altitude: 10,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:05:41, B-52D Pinto-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:05:50, B-52D Pinto-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:05, B-52D Pinto-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard. 00:06:12, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Maroon-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 29m) 00:06:22, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 23km Target azimuth: 219° Target elevation: 27° Target altitude: 10,8km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:06:39, B-52D Ash-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:42, B-52D Ash-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad. 00:06:57, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Yellow-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 42m) 00:07:02, B-52D Smoke-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:05, B-52D Smoke-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:06, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 21km Target azimuth: 207° Target elevation: 32° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:07:10, B-52D Smoke-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad. 00:07:10, B-52D Gold-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:17, B-52D Gold-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:26, B-52D Gold-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard. 00:07:38, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Yellow-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 29m) 00:07:45, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 19km Target azimuth: 194° Target elevation: 35° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:07:48, B-52D Cobalt-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:07:56, B-52D Cobalt-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:12, B-52D Cobalt-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage. 00:08:17, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Yellow-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 34m) 00:08:32, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3 Target distance: 22km Target azimuth: 289° Target elevation: 30° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:09:10, Missile exploded on Channel-3 B-52D Cream-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 20m) 00:09:30, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 20km Target azimuth: 319° Target elevation: 33° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:09:59, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Brown-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 21m) 00:10:07, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2 Target distance: 16km Target azimuth: 347° Target elevation: 45° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:10:32, Missile exploded on Channel-2 B-52D Brown-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 35m) 00:10:41, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1 Target distance: 15km Target azimuth: 24° Target elevation: 48° Target altitude: 11,4km SNR mode: LORO - 75km Missile guidance method: I87V/TT (I87V Three Point) 00:11:10, Missile exploded on Channel-1 B-52D Brown-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 14m) Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 32sec
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#3596982 - 06/25/12 08:52 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
Alien_MasterMynd Member Registered: 04/27/12 Posts: 239 Loc: Czech Republic	I finally got some time to hunt F-117 down :-) Edited by Alien_MasterMynd (06/25/12 09:34 AM) Edit Reason: Repaired video link
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