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#3479493 - 12/22/11 06:57 PM Installing JF-18 in Windows 7
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Using the TSH install sequence and 4.02, I can get to the main screen once. Then, when I try to access it again, continuous CTD. I am starting it with DX Tweaker, as stated in TSH. Am I doing this incorrectly? Also, are there any compatability modes I need to check on the properties tab?

Matt
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#3479534 - 12/22/11 08:08 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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I installed in compat mode using win98
I did NOT use the default dir as rights issues in the Program Files dir can be annoying
I run single player w/o compat mode but Multiplayer caused constant crashes. Compat mode win98 seems to have solved that for me.

Good luck. Hope that helped!
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#3479542 - 12/22/11 08:21 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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Have you tried running it without DirectX Tweaker also.
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#3479546 - 12/22/11 08:30 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: Rudel]
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Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar
I installed in compat mode using win98
I did NOT use the default dir as rights issues in the Program Files dir can be annoying
I run single player w/o compat mode but Multiplayer caused constant crashes. Compat mode win98 seems to have solved that for me.

Good luck. Hope that helped!

I run it on another HDD, without the program files or x64 issues. I'll give the win98 mode a try, with and without DX Tweaker.


Originally Posted By: Rudel
Have you tried running it without DirectX Tweaker also.


Gonna give that a whirl too, thanks for all actively keeping this bird alive.

Also, Rudel, with your thread on resources, are they compatible with TSH 4.02? Also, we are supposed to run all mods through JGSME, right?

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#3479644 - 12/23/11 12:00 AM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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You only need JGSME to install 4.02 or other releases from the current TSH website. Any other mod is up to you, on how you'd like to install it. I'll be creating a "How To" on making mods work with it. It's really simple actually.

The current compatible items available for TSH are:

except Runways, All Scenery Files
Flares
Tracers
Muzzle Flash
Cockpits
Afterburner Flames only
System/Nenu

Do take note that the Landpals only work in "Instant" Action since the new mission builder uses unified landpals.

Once I finish the non-TSH items, I will begin sorting the TSH stuff.
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#3482285 - 12/27/11 04:54 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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So, continued frustrations abound..............

I have teid running with and without DX Tweaker and I am only able to get to the splash screen, but have no options to choose from. I have run my mouse all over the splash screen, but nothing highlights. I have tried compatability mode and without compatability mode.

Can everyone that's running their installs in Windows7 and using TSH, please confirm your settings in both your shortcut properties and how you're able to get it to work. I really would love to play this, but am about ready to throw in the towel. Also, within the MODS folder, under TSH4.02, do I have to tweak the TSH manager? I don't see it offered to tweak like TSH 3.0 and under would offer.

Thanks

Matt
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#3482321 - 12/27/11 06:00 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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You really have two options:

a) Continue trying to make TSHv4.x plus DXTweaker plus JSGME plus various mods work. The results will be as you have already been experiencing, with great wailing and gnashing of teeth.

or

b) Use what works. (Works quite nicely on Windows 7 32bit or 64 bit, also.)

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#3482461 - 12/27/11 11:37 PM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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Hi Matt,

Are you also posting as 'J2' on the TSH Support forums? If not, I'll repost...

...anyone running TSH v4 on Win 7 is bound to have issues. Many many things can cause the CTD. I've been keeping up on this, and most users seem to be using Win2K mode. It is not required to run TSH in compatability mode. Like I've said before, every one has a different issue. I suspect it to be hardware/driver related though. It's a matter of finding the right combination.

JF18 was written on a 32-bit platform with DirectX 7 in mind. Being a nearly 11 year old sim will certainly have it's problems. With or without TSH.

Give v3.06 a try as Hedgehog mentions. VFA-41 is having great success with it.
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#3482519 - 12/28/11 02:08 AM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: Rudel]
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Originally Posted By: Rudel
Hi Matt,

Are you also posting as 'J2' on the TSH Support forums? If not, I'll repost...

...anyone running TSH v4 on Win 7 is bound to have issues. Many many things can cause the CTD. I've been keeping up on this, and most users seem to be using Win2K mode. It is not required to run TSH in compatability mode. Like I've said before, every one has a different issue. I suspect it to be hardware/driver related though. It's a matter of finding the right combination.

JF18 was written on a 32-bit platform with DirectX 7 in mind. Being a nearly 11 year old sim will certainly have it's problems. With or without TSH.

Give v3.06 a try as Hedgehog mentions. VFA-41 is having great success with it.

Not my posting as J2 on TSH forums. Still no joy with Hedgehog's recommendation. All I get is the intro music on a black screen, I click the mouse, then hear tanks on next black screen, click it and then the main splash screen with no roll over menu selections. Truly frustrating and my apologies for taking anyone's valuable time or thought processes to help in figuring this out. Do either of you think I should play with compatability modes with the shortcuts posted on my desktop by the one step installer? Also, when I click on the Janes shortcut from the one step installer, I get there's no skunk.cmp.dll file so doesn't allow me to progress at times either.

I was also suprised the one step has the full game included, along with all the other assorted tweaks as well. Quite a nice package,

Matt
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#3482558 - 12/28/11 03:10 AM Re: Installing JF-18 in Windows 7 [Re: strykerpsg]
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I will ask just in case...but did you do a fresh install of JF18 up to patch v1.01 before you installed v3.06?

Let's get this figured out:

- Did you select a 'World' with the Swapper before starting the exe? It is a must.
- With the TSH Manager, start with 1024x768 resolution first.
- What are your 3d settings for the F18.exe in the nVidia panel?

I only have a 8500GT but my settings are:

Ambient Occlusion - N/A
Anistropic Filtering - 4x
AA Gamma - Global Off
AA Mode - Override Any App Setting
AA Setting - 4x
AA Transparency - Off
CUDA GPU - Global All
Max Pre-Render Frames - Global 3
Multi-display/mixed-GPU Acceleration - Global Performance
Texture Filtering Anistropic Sample Optimization - Off
Texture Filtering Neg LOD bias - Clamp
Texture Filtering Quality - High Quality
Texture Filtering Trilinear Optimization - Global Auto
Triple Buffering - On
Texture Filtering Anistropic Filter Optimization - Off
Vertical Sync - Global 3D App
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