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#3351156 - 07/25/11 10:51 PM F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread  
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Hello Hornet Pit Builders...
Time to time I get PM asking me what are the dimensions of the Hornet cockpit to get them started on building? Alot of these questions were answered at Frugalsworld.com But they are long gone.
And also given the fact there is tons of info on how to build a Viper pit and absolutely nothing on the F/A-18 Hornet. I decided to start this thread.

I will help you if I can and If you have anything to contribute plz post here. Thank you.


To Start:
This is the front end of a real Hornet that the Navy Loaned and all my pit measurement came from. It is long gone now. The Navy sold it to a museum.



This is an early rough patch of of my "C" pit. Posted in an earlyer thread. BTW: The only real Hornet part in this picture is the Ejection seat pull ring.



The Bucket, With center stick



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#3351163 - 07/25/11 10:57 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Getting started......
The easyest Ive found with out having a real Hornet in your garage was to find a Hornet NATOPS flight manual in PDF format. Find the cockpit foldout sections in the back. Take the one you want to a print shop and inlarge it to 400%. Yes 400. And have it printed. When you are done you with have the basic demenshions of the pit layout.
When we took the real Honret parts and layed them on the inlarged print it was a perfect match as could be.

This is a DDI Bezel layed on the enlarged print. Close enough for me smile

Remeber the Foldouts have the Side Panels...Print them to!



Cut out and seperated. 3D



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#3351174 - 07/25/11 11:02 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Some more basic dimensions.









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#3351175 - 07/25/11 11:10 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Center Stick: All steel with self centering actuators.





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#3351176 - 07/25/11 11:11 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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DDI MFD Bezels and Hud combinder





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#3351182 - 07/25/11 11:24 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Ive managed to get some real Hornet stuff. Like the Gear handle, Chaff/Flare center panel, Canopy eject handle and weapons jettison Button on instrumnet panel.

I have all the knobs and switches. The only hangup I have with my project is makeing or finding the individual Instrument panels.

Another setback was.. I bought some Thrustmaster Cougar F-16 MFD to take apart to use in my Hornet Bezels. But when I took them apart they were way to complicated to break up and make them work frown

Cheers !
/O Pretzel


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#3353356 - 07/28/11 08:35 AM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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This is some incredible work, thank you for sharing.

#3353447 - 07/28/11 12:18 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Pretzel, can you provide more details on (what appears) to be a gas spring that you're using for the stick centering mech? I'm going to be totally rebuilding how I did the stick centering system in the F-15 and I like how compact your set up is.

Thanks!

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#3353459 - 07/28/11 12:36 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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[Accidental duplicate post]

Last edited by Gene Buckle; 07/28/11 12:36 PM.

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#3354249 - 07/29/11 05:27 AM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Fantastic stuff, Pretzel. thumbsup


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#3354556 - 07/29/11 04:47 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Wow amazing! Here's hoping for DCS-F18!


I've got a bad feeling about this.....
#3354583 - 07/29/11 05:27 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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That looks amazing!
One -small- nitpick: the glass in your combiner is in upside-down.

#3355434 - 07/30/11 06:23 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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*looks up at the F-15 HUD*

Yep. The bottom glass is installed upside down. The cockpit placement diagram above shows the same thing. biggrin

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#3355709 - 07/31/11 03:51 AM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Parts display....

From the top

Canopy Bow handles
Hud Camera
Hud Controler/recorder
Up Front controller
DDI Bezels
Weapons Store jettison button
Canopy ejection handle
MFD - MAP display
Standby instrument bezels
Wheel brake handle
Tail Hook Handle
Wings fold handle
Jettioson select knob
Center flight stick


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#3355710 - 07/31/11 03:53 AM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Real Parts...

Love them gear handles smile Master cauton panel, O2 regulator. Counter measures control panel



Military switches - Circuit Breakers



Aviation knobs - Hornet style





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#3355726 - 07/31/11 04:22 AM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: wledzian]  
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Originally Posted By: wledzian
That looks amazing!
One -small- nitpick: the glass in your combiner is in upside-down.


Thanks I will flip em over - Frosty edge side up. smile


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#3356188 - 07/31/11 11:11 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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If you find the time to shoot some footage of the self centering stick mechanism, I'd take the time to watch it. biggrin Very nice!

#3356526 - 08/01/11 01:23 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Originally Posted By: Pretzel
Originally Posted By: wledzian
That looks amazing!
One -small- nitpick: the glass in your combiner is in upside-down.


Thanks I will flip em over - Frosty edge side up. smile


Wrong kind of flip smile The "coffin" shape of the lower combiner glass should point "down" so that you see something like the following when looking through it:

/----\
| |
| |
\____/
[edit: Proportional spacing for fonts totally ruin fancy ASCII art. biggrin ]
The arrangement looks like this:

http://www.f15sim.com/images/newglass_left_sm.jpg

g.

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#3356545 - 08/01/11 01:54 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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Incredible. This is going to be a good one!

#3357483 - 08/02/11 03:28 PM Re: F/A-18 Hornet Pit builders (HornetHQ) Thread [Re: Pretzel]  
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The F-18 combiner bottom glass is chamfered at both ends - the top half is fully double-layered. It does look like the bottom edge has a smaller chamfer (ie the glass is less pointy at the bottom), and appears to be in the correct orientation. The flip I was referring to is 'frosty edge down', so that the edges disappear when you're looking through them correctly.

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