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#3592081 - 06/15/12 05:31 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Edited by Hpasp (06/15/12 05:34 AM)
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#3592089 - 06/15/12 06:03 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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I've always been bothered by that translation - does it really mean angular speed - maximised when parameter = range, or instead radial speed - maximised when parameter = zero?

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#3592095 - 06/15/12 06:44 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Lieste]
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Originally Posted By: Lieste
I've always been bothered by that translation - does it really mean angular speed - maximised when parameter = range, or instead radial speed - maximised when parameter = zero?


Speed calculated from the frequency Doppler Shift of the received signal from the target, compared to the emitted signal.
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#3592099 - 06/15/12 06:49 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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emmm.. guys i have good idea for understanding how alien mastermynd can did this job !

dear alien_mastermynd please create a video tuturial about this hunting! i think watch video is best way too understand how we can hunt f-14


Edited by milang (06/15/12 06:50 AM)

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#3592103 - 06/15/12 06:59 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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That is 'radial' speed then - the doppler velocity.

'Angular velocity' is R.Omega (where angular changes in elevation and bearing are considered).

Calculated speed is the square root of the sum of squares of doppler velocity and angular velocity.

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#3592112 - 06/15/12 07:59 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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It is simple, just read my AARs :-)

The F-14s will turn when they are around 75km far (in case there is not hostile activity from you to them), so at about 90-95km you should turn on radar, acquire target (assuming you have already prepared missiles) and shoot at distance of about 85km.
Then switch to acquisition panel (C) and carefully watch target's relative speed indicator and RAZRES FM lamp. Once the aircraft will start turnaround, speed indicator will begin to decrease. When it is close to zero, RAZRES FM will illuminate and this is the moment when you MUST switch radar to FM mode. Now those F-14s are turning, at one moment you will see return from E-2C on the speed gate screen (also you can see it on a received signal spectrum screen (X) and another dot on a target indicator.
Once targets speed lowers enough below zero (indicating that your target is flying away), RAZRES FM will cease and you MUST switch the radar back to MHI mode so the missile's GSN will have sufficiently strong signal.
After this you can only watch the situation :-) If you have enough RSSI (more than 34dB) you can shoot another missile, but it will probably deteriorate during long flight in dense atmosphere.

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#3592113 - 06/15/12 08:05 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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puuuuuuuf guys! i try more and more that senario! mayhap 50 around to hitt f-14 !
i loose them again and again! guys dont wory about this happend! we have not problem! i think sa-5 have big problem
i can feel Smoke gets my brain mad
in my opinion sa-5 have a lot of more Blind spot's yep


Edited by milang (06/15/12 08:06 AM)

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#3592114 - 06/15/12 08:08 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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blind spots? Please consider you are using it for something it has not been designed to :-) You are shooting at a very low flying target in considerable distance. The missile is not projected to sustain such a long flight near to ground.

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#3592121 - 06/15/12 08:19 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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no dude...calm down please
wait a munite ahoy

just loookm, deep look at the senario! that senario is false... mr.hp create it reality... but !
but in real world i guess libyan focres must bee idiot for thinked about hunt aircraft's with low pass flying with sa-5 banghead
also.. i guess that libyan sam forces wants to get them out of clooser than beach! not to contact 100% i guess they shoot them for only get back them at first postion ! means They scare for dont clooser to beach!
but amazing for me ! dear aliien master create a video tuturial for us.please wave




Edited by milang (06/15/12 11:50 AM)

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#3592125 - 06/15/12 08:32 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Do you want it? Come and get it :-)
OK, I can make a video next week.

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