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#359092 - 05/06/04 11:27 PM Need help bombing sub pen  
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I just can't complete this mission where I'm to bomb the sub pen. My flight of eight are assigned a piece of the pen each, and my flight always get their targets, but I never do. How am I supposed to know exactly which part of the pen to hit?

I get a GPS co-ord assigned to my section (of the pen), but I can't hand off that co-ord to my targetting system, can I? Or do I need to RTFM (yet again)?

(I did try a search for 'submarine pen' and 'sub pen' in both this forum and the archive but got no luck)

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#359093 - 05/06/04 11:30 PM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Easiest way is to take a GPS guided munition (JDAM).

However, you can also use an LGB. Once a PB target is selected (you can use a HARM for this), you can hit the TGT on the FLIR and it will hand off the current GPS target to the FLIR. Hit ENTER, and you will lock that target so you can switch to an LGB or other non-GPS capable weapon without losing lock.

You could also enable HUD steering to the GPS target, but that might not help you pinpoint it on the ground.

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#359094 - 05/07/04 12:53 AM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Well I didn't want to use a JDAM on a target that shouldn't be so difficult to hit, but I'll definitely try that LGB method. It didn't even occur to me because I assumed the default loadout for the mission should be the easiest to use.

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You could also enable HUD steering to the GPS target, but that might not help you pinpoint it on the ground.
Yeah, that was exactly the case.

Thanks a lot for that, Recluse. \:\)

#359095 - 05/07/04 03:09 AM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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You could also use a dumb bomb...once the FLIR has locked and designated the target, you could use that targetting cue to set up an AUTO or CCIP drop of a couple of Mk-84. Trick is having a HARM or other GPS weapon onboard to get the PB target handed off.

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#359096 - 05/07/04 07:49 AM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Well I did it for the first time last night. Forgot to load a HARM (duh) so I ended up using a JDAM. And guess what? The first time I successfully bombed my target was the first time some of my flight didn't bomb theirs. Mission failed. BAH!

#359097 - 05/07/04 09:54 AM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  

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Sub pens are "hard" targets. You need to use penetrating wepaons. Please observe that the penetrating wepaon bug may be in effect for sub pens, i.e. you might need to use the non-penetrating wepaons to get the penetrating effect.

Use 2 laser guided bombs. Drop both at the same time, i.e. set the SMS for salvo delivery.

Learn the layout of target area. Reason like this (example): "Ok, on the left of my target there are two buildings arranged north-south and on the immediate right there are three docks going east-west". When approacing the target area, use the EXP-mode of the ground radar and try to find your target. Select the target using the target designation cursor. Slave the FLIR to the radar and visualy confirm that your target has been acquired.

If this is a bit too much to handle on ingress, pause the sim when you are 5-10nm out and perform all of the above while paused.

Don't forget to order your flight to "Attack with...", "Guided, all".

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#359098 - 05/07/04 11:28 AM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Keep in mind with penetrating munitions, you must have sufficient altitude for them to achieve enough velocity to penetrate. Usually angels 10 (AGL). I know it's no fun ingressing at such an altitude on a heavily defended target, but use a pop-up profile to minimize exposure (go in low and about 5-10 nm out, shoot up to you 10K altitude).








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#359099 - 05/07/04 01:52 PM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Also keep in mind that JDAMs will only work if the target is GPS designated, otherwise it is jsut a very expensive dumb bomb.

Does the sim account for the physica os altitude liek cdelucia was saying?

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Also keep in mind that JDAMs will only work if the target is GPS designated, otherwise it is jsut a very expensive dumb bomb.

Does the sim account for the physica os altitude liek cdelucia was saying?

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I don't think so. Look for Elf's old posts on the subject.

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#359101 - 05/10/04 05:36 PM Re: Need help bombing sub pen  
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Cool, there's been some excellent advice in this thread, thanks a lot everyone. \:\)


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