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#3589061 - 06/09/12 05:02 PM Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice
iambecomelife Offline
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Just wanted to say "Hi" to everyone here and start out by begging for some advice. Nice first impression, eh?

the iambecomelife-mobile is now seven years old and has survived countless upgrades. I'm looking for a new PC. Just wondering what advice you all have for a good OFF rig, which will also be used extensively for modding work (Silent Hunter IV, not OFF). Current setup has a Core 2 Duo E8400 at 3GHz and a Radeon 5850. Played OFF with pretty good results, but considerable stuttering at times.

What are the big bottlenecks for OFF? CPU, RAM, or Graphics card?

Where do I sink my money?

Also, since I do a lot of graphics editing and 3d modeling would a SSD be worth it?

Thanks.


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#3589070 - 06/09/12 05:19 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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Bottleneck's going to be single-threaded CPU performance. 8 slow cores is the worst thing you could do. OFF can't use more than 3gig of RAM, and any modern mid to upper level graphics card should be alright, unless you're running really high resolutions and then you'll need extra graphics power.
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#3589079 - 06/09/12 05:33 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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I have almost the same rig with a Core Duo E 8500 and an ATI 5850 with XP Pro and I run OFF 1920 x 1080 without any stuttering ( I also run RoF with no problem, just lowering landscape to medium...)
By the way, I am a long time Silent Hunter player (3 NYGM / Living SH3 v5.1 and 4) and use many of your fantastic boats, so I will take the opportunity to say thank you for your work...
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#3589118 - 06/09/12 06:26 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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What Corsaire said, I have the E8500 with 8gb ram, and SSD main drive (for windows 7/64 only) with a Nvidia 460 GTX V2. Runs smooth and fast. Have terrain on 3 and scenery on 4 all else on 5. This rig runs cool (which is a real plus in Upstate California) and love the Win 7 operating system.

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#3589232 - 06/09/12 10:42 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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Loc: Florida, USA
OFF likes speed more than it needs power, my last rig ( XP ) was a Quad but at 2.4ghtz I played like a second class citizen.

I now run an i5at 3.6. . No need to go cutting edge on a video card, I run a GTX 480. Ram is the cheapest part now, no reason to go below 8 gig

I'm running 4 on scenery and terrain, 5 on the rest. With 60 FPS

Just go for an aftermarket cooler, air is fine, in SW Florida I wouldn't Last Long without one. Don't forget the silver paste, this is no place to scrimp

Thank God Windows 7 supports FFB
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#3589306 - 06/10/12 01:55 AM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
Andy73 Offline
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Registered: 05/28/12
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I am using an Asus-Mainboard with an i5-2500K-Core (4x 3,3 GHZ)and 8 GB RAM, and a Geforce GTX 460. Sound Card is a Asus Xonar D2. Fantastic Results with all Sliders on 5 (except Scenery and Terrain) and FPS always at 60.
Highly Recommended !!!! thumbsup

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#3589339 - 06/10/12 06:04 AM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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Welcome Over Flanders Fields, Iambecomelife!

I run OFF with the quad core Intel Core i5-2500K, 3,3GHz.
I had overclocked it slightly, but I'm back to default, and it performs fine.
Your graphic card should do all it's work fine, I think; and the RAM is more than enough.

I would ask you to check my detailed advice for graphics setup, over at Combat Ace:

http://combatace.com/topic/60374-graphics-setup-an-easy-pictorial-guide/

You should definitely try the slider settings like this:

Overall graphics: 5

Aircraft: 5
Terrain Detail: 3
Scenery detail: 2
Effects Quality: 5
Clouds: 5

Winder's Terrain does look great at 3, and a higher resolution for the "tiles" is really not necessary.
I found it even looked too grainy for my taste, which makes it appear closer than it should from the air.
(But that is of course a matter of taste).
"Scenery detail" seem to be houses, trucks, trenches - all the models above the terrain tiles.
On 2 or 3 it will be great already.
Some say, Clouds make a difference for them, but I used an ATI HD4870, and they were always fine on 5.

At last, let me ask you for your town & country/state - I'd like to add your name
to our "OFF Pilots Maps" over at the other forum.




Edited by Olham (06/10/12 06:06 AM)

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#3589340 - 06/10/12 06:14 AM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
Tailspinner Offline
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Registered: 05/22/12
Posts: 40
Loc: Pennsylvania
Greetings Chaps,

I am also looking for some advice on this subject for both gaming and personal computing. After much research this is the configuration to build out a new PC. My goal is to keep the total price below $1200. Any feedback greatly appreciated!

CPU -Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler -Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard -Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory -Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Hard Drive -Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Boot Drive -Intel 320 Series 40GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card -Asus GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2GB Video Card
Power Supply -OCZ 600W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Optical Drive -Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System -Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)


Edited by Tailspinner (06/10/12 06:18 AM)

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#3589503 - 06/10/12 02:25 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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Loc: Florida, USA
Tailspinner . . . the only possible problem is that 600 Watt PSU with the GTX 560

Myself I stopped at a GTX 480 bacause of my 750 W PSU

Yes the book calls for a 600, but for the extra $15 when building a 750 is under a lot less pressure to deliver so theoretically at least it SHOULD Last Longer

That plus very few PSU's Deliver their Rated Amperage, usually it's less, by how much that's a crap shoot

Unless of course you pay for an 80%er but those are rather costly

A PSU is no place to scrimp

But that's private opinion

While this is definately opinion . .Why spend extra Bucks on a Cooler, and not use the Artic Silver Paste, it's $10 extra today . . .But


Edited by Uncleal (06/10/12 02:33 PM)
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#3589539 - 06/10/12 04:15 PM Re: Semi-OT: New PC Build Advice [Re: iambecomelife]
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I agree with Uncleal, fine build for OFF but you're going to want to put a little more into the PSU. And if the (2 x 4GB) RAM leaves you room to add more later, Windows 7 64-bit really shines with even more memory. A cheap (slow 5400 RMP 'eco') external drive for backups is a good idea as well.
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