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#3588342 - 06/08/12 11:19 AM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Bokononist]
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Originally Posted By: Bokononist
I thought that what they changed their minds about was letting us live, the only thing that stopped them killing us was getting slaughtered by their own 'weapons'.


There indeed was an accident, but my guess is that they did not change their mind to wipe us out. The sole remaining Engineer was left there waiting for humans to be able to respond to the "invitation" they left on earth. Maybe space travel in that scale is the mark that signals that their creations have gone too far.

They know what their own nature is (violent, though have the genius to create life and travel the stars), so they know what to expect from their creations once they "mature".

Isn't it fun to speculate? biggrin
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#3588353 - 06/08/12 11:38 AM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Bib4Tuna]
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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


- He did not know. His intention was not to kill. As was shown consistently, he is just very curious. Also, Wayland told him to find out what the stuff did (Try harder). David is not your typical Asimov's "three rules" robot.


I got the impression that he was spiteful and willfully disobedient, like Ash was.


Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


-Different planet, this is not LV-426. Alien ship and eggs in LV-426 crashed there for thousands of years, so they are still there on LV-424 while the events in this movie transpire. If at all, we can see the Xenomorphs have to do with Engineer, and black stuff combination somehow. The human factor (plus all the contamination it got from the surgery chamber) makes them look different.


So the thing that burst from the engineer at the end was not a xenomorph queen?
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#3588464 - 06/08/12 02:08 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: UnderTheRadar]
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Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar
Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


- He did not know. His intention was not to kill. As was shown consistently, he is just very curious. Also, Wayland told him to find out what the stuff did (Try harder). David is not your typical Asimov's "three rules" robot.


I got the impression that he was spiteful and willfully disobedient, like Ash was.


Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


-Different planet, this is not LV-426. Alien ship and eggs in LV-426 crashed there for thousands of years, so they are still there on LV-424 while the events in this movie transpire. If at all, we can see the Xenomorphs have to do with Engineer, and black stuff combination somehow. The human factor (plus all the contamination it got from the surgery chamber) makes them look different.


So the thing that burst from the engineer at the end was not a xenomorph queen?


Remember the mural of the crucified Queen? The Xenomorphs already existed and were known to the Engineers.

Also keep in mind that in Alien3 it was established the Xeno's tried to mimic the host. Same principle here. (Ridley did say he borrow that idea from Alien3).

Hence the "worms". Can't explain the Squidworth/facehugger monster though...


Edited by Bib4Tuna (06/08/12 02:14 PM)
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#3588515 - 06/08/12 03:19 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Rick.50cal]
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I found David to be curious like a child and to enjoy discovering new things, he also asked the scientist how far he'd go to find what he wanted before dipping the mercury stuff in his drink so I don't think he'd have poisoned him if he didn't think he'd risk death for his discovery.

Wasn't that engineer the sole survivor after an accident? Wouldn't he have locked himself in the life pod in the hope one of his race would come along to rescue him? Also if they wanted to kill Earths life off, assuming they're like us with a main power, wouldn't they just send another ship to finish us off had they not changed thier minds?

Ok, one more, what kind of weapon is that stuff, I thought a good weapon would wipe life out so you could then step straight in, this seems to spawn life from death so you'd have to clean up after?

I like films that make me think!



Edited by Friday (06/08/12 03:20 PM)
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#3588749 - 06/08/12 11:58 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Rick.50cal]
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I found David to be the most interesting character in the film by far. I really liked how he was fascinated by Lawrence of Arabia and his moral ambiguity gave his character some mystery.



Edited by PanzerMeyer (06/09/12 11:18 AM)
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#3588865 - 06/09/12 09:31 AM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I found David to be the most interesting character in the film by far. I really liked how he was fascinated by Lawrene of Arabia and his moral ambiguity gave his character some mystery.



Agreed. I wish all of the characters were as fleshed out, especially Charlize's.


Edited by UnderTheRadar (06/09/12 09:32 AM)
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#3588991 - 06/09/12 02:50 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Rick.50cal]
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Noomi Rapace is a GORGEOUS woman IMHO!
Beautiful bone structure in her face!
Also a bit the Ripley type of woman me thinks!
Theron is also gorgeous ofcourse, but I like women with nice cheekbones like Noomi Rapace.
I myself have thesame kind of cheekbones as Pete Postlethwaite. (no joke)

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#3588997 - 06/09/12 02:57 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: UnderTheRadar]
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I happen to think that Charlize is just exquisitely fleshed out!

Also did not care for the gratuitous sex scene with the ship's captain. Totally unnecessary.

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#3589001 - 06/09/12 03:02 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Bib4Tuna]
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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
Originally Posted By: UnderTheRadar
Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


- He did not know. His intention was not to kill. As was shown consistently, he is just very curious. Also, Wayland told him to find out what the stuff did (Try harder). David is not your typical Asimov's "three rules" robot.


I got the impression that he was spiteful and willfully disobedient, like Ash was.


Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna


-Different planet, this is not LV-426. Alien ship and eggs in LV-426 crashed there for thousands of years, so they are still there on LV-424 while the events in this movie transpire. If at all, we can see the Xenomorphs have to do with Engineer, and black stuff combination somehow. The human factor (plus all the contamination it got from the surgery chamber) makes them look different.


So the thing that burst from the engineer at the end was not a xenomorph queen?


Remember the mural of the crucified Queen? The Xenomorphs already existed and were known to the Engineers.


?? So how does the black liquid create a Xenomorph if they're already a fully formed species? If the goop creates Xenos, why did the biologist not have a chest explosion after the mutated worm did a force feeding on him?
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#3589003 - 06/09/12 03:05 PM Re: Prometheus "FULL OF SPOILERS" discussion thread! [Re: Rick.50cal]
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I think I may have discovered a misdirection...

Here is a pic of the System LV 233 is in



Here is the ship's "star map" closer to the planetoid/moon:




Now, compare with the system where the Nostromo found LV 426





My take is that LV 233 and LV 426 belong to the same planetary system.

The only contradiction...

It was going to take Nostromo 10 months to get back to Earth (or at least the solar system) and Prometheus traveled for 2 years to get there.

Thoughts?

Is LV 233 really LV 426?


Edited by Bib4Tuna (06/09/12 03:11 PM)
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