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#3586164 - 06/04/12 05:56 PM Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble
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Former Spy Telescope May Explore Secrets of Dark Energy

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The phone call came like a bolt out of the blue, so to speak, in January 2011. On the other end of the line was someone from the National Reconnaissance Office, which operates the nation’s fleet of spy satellites. They had some spare, unused “hardware” to get rid of. Was NASA interested?


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#3586214 - 06/04/12 07:14 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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well whilst a nice jesture pointless. Out star will burn out long before the universe flies apart and perhaps even before NASA Figures out what they will do with the new scope haha!!

besides is the Big Crunch Now off??
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#3586247 - 06/04/12 08:00 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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The Big Crunch has been off for a while, well, since Hubble confirmed our Universe was accelerating in its expansion. Okay, maybe some people still think there is a chance for it but as I see it, only if our Universe is a hypersphere which I doubt. wink

Oh, and well our star might burn out... not before the Milky Way collides with Andromeda!

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#3586294 - 06/04/12 10:07 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: Mr_Blastman]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blastman
The Big Crunch has been off for a while, well, since Hubble confirmed our Universe was accelerating in its expansion. Okay, maybe some people still think there is a chance for it but as I see it, only if our Universe is a hypersphere which I doubt. wink

Oh, and well our star might burn out... not before the Milky Way collides with Andromeda!



Yes I kinda figured the Big Crunch was out now !!



AHH, Yes Good old Andromeda cant forget what a spectacle that is going to be..

Well the Sun has gone through some drastic changes over the 30 years I been observing it and it is Only getting wierder..There was one Astronomer who came out and said it may not be Billions of years but sooner then anyone expects but he was quickly showed to the Quiet Room..

Wonder what he Saw in the Sun..As I beleive it will just shut off like a light.. but who knows maybe in a hundred years I really do NOT know but my instincts say sooner then we think as well..One theory I had that was Proved correct buy the Astronomers is the sun has gotten Brighter..

Plus it is burning a different color then the Golden color it used to be, but perhaps that could be the Atmosphere dissappearing causing the color change but it is Fact it is Burning Brighter..

It now looks to be Burning White..I had also noticed one thing they said would only be observable ONLY during a Full Eclipse is there All the time now the Corona..


Edited by The Nephilim (06/04/12 10:14 PM)
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#3586577 - 06/05/12 01:33 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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So when these are more powerful than the Hubble... and on earth they create a single large virtual telescope from multiple... could these two together with the James Webb be used in the same way?

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#3586672 - 06/05/12 04:06 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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Well, they are all designed for different things. The James Webb scope is being optimized for analysis in the infrared spectrum, whereas these spy satellites are more the visible spectrum wavelength. So I doubt they'll be used the same way but could with their different wavelengths, be used to look at the same thing in a different way.

That is, if we get these Spy Satellites into orbit. I hope we do, it'd be neat to put them to better, more peaceful use.

It isn't like they'll discover dark matter but in the least, maybe, they'll be helpful in figuring out the true shape of our Universe. As for the Sun getting brighter... well, maybe over a billion or two years but I don't think it has increased in luninescence in the last few decades. Any such observation as you pointed out, could be a result of atmospheric changes. These stars burn for billions of years and unless the Sun recently swallowed a gigantic planet or the Aliens have actually been feeding off of it as suggested in a youtube video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2wTZeNpUJk

I doubt it. It'd need to be measured in space.


Edited by Mr_Blastman (06/05/12 04:10 PM)

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#3586691 - 06/05/12 04:45 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: Mr_Blastman]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blastman
I doubt it. It'd need to be measured in space.


If the sun is brighter during the last decade, it's likely the result of the reversal of the causes of "global dimming"

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#3586900 - 06/05/12 11:34 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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Yeah exactly. A lot of hippies forget that pollution was a million times worse, at least here in America nearly a century ago. Things have cleaned up quite a bit, at least, visually. It doesn't reverse the CFC damage but a lot of the carbon-based pollutants have been reduced dramatically.

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#3587230 - 06/06/12 01:33 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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Yes, the reduction in coal usage has ironically allowed MORE sunlight in.

Just remember: the Martian polar caps are shrinking. We're not doing that, they're being affected by just one thing--the sun. So if those are shrinking, and as Mars is 2x farther from the sun it gets just 1/4 the solar output (plus it's smaller, so there's less surface area to absorb solar output), doesn't it stand to reason it's getting warmer here?



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#3587349 - 06/06/12 04:10 PM Re: Secret American Space Agency Gives NASA Two Spy Telescopes More Powerful Than the Hubble [Re: JAMF]
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The sun has output more over time, but on a human time scale it's virtually nil. It will make Earth uninhabitable in 1 to 2 billion years time. There are sunspot cycles and variations in Earth's orbit that have a much more immediate effect. I would expect the same for Mars, I think it has a more eccentric orbit than Earth as well.

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