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#3582303 - 05/29/12 03:30 PM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: Tigerwulf]
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Originally Posted By: Tigerwulf
OK more testing and found that the ranges reading on the panther sight are completely wrong, i think. It seems that the range marker is too condensed. You can hit at 500 meters without touching the sight, if you set it at 500 it goes way over, and for a target 1200 meters away you need a range of 2200 on the sight. It'd be cool if they could get them all calibrated so that we can use them.


You did the test using the zoomed in gun sight, right? Because the zoomed out version is a wider field of view for spotting purposes, it doesn't line up with the rangefinder.


Edited by charon2112 (05/29/12 03:31 PM)
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#3582325 - 05/29/12 04:02 PM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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Originally Posted By: charon2112
You did the test using the zoomed in gun sight, right? Because the zoomed out version is a wider field of view for spotting purposes, it doesn't line up with the rangefinder.


Yup, zoomed in.

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#3582328 - 05/29/12 04:06 PM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: Tigerwulf]
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Originally Posted By: Tigerwulf
Originally Posted By: charon2112
You did the test using the zoomed in gun sight, right? Because the zoomed out version is a wider field of view for spotting purposes, it doesn't line up with the rangefinder.


Yup, zoomed in.


In my test, it seemed accurate until about 1200 meters, then the rounds fell short and I had to dial in 1400 to get them to hit. Either way, I think it needs some calibrating.
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#3583113 - 05/30/12 11:43 PM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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I'm having a serious problem with range-finding in IFL. I created a custom mission with dummy tanks at about 750 and 1400 meters. When I use the auto rangefinder, it shows correctly about 750 meters, but I have to dial in almost 1400 meters to hit the target! To hit the targets at 1400 meters, I have to dial in almost 2200 meters. And forget about using the strich, when I place a head on t34 so it fills the center triangle, it should be right at 750 meters. But I still had to dial in almost 1400 meters again. The ticks and strich seem purely cosmetic and not usable for rangefinding. I hope I'm wrong and just doing something very wrong, but it doesn't look good for the realism in IFL.
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#3583124 - 05/31/12 12:14 AM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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Charon, does your custom mission have you and the dummy targets on the same elevation? If you are firing at a target higher or lower, it must be compensated, IIRC.

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#3583133 - 05/31/12 12:38 AM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: adlabs6]
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Originally Posted By: adlabs6
Charon, does your custom mission have you and the dummy targets on the same elevation? If you are firing at a target higher or lower, it must be compensated, IIRC.


very closely the same, yeah. I also tried in the prepackaged mission that has a bunch of empty tanks in it. I drove a panther across a flat field until the auto range-finder said 800 meters to my target. (ignoring the fact that at that range the head on target should have been a little bigger than the center triangle in the gunsight and it was 3 times as big, rendering the triangles useless for ranging). I dialed in 800 and the rounds fell way short, I had to dial in about 1200 meters before they hit.
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#3583164 - 05/31/12 02:58 AM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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This is the problem i was talking about Charon. I wonder whether they can patch the sights?

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#3583251 - 05/31/12 08:26 AM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: Tigerwulf]
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Originally Posted By: Tigerwulf
This is the problem i was talking about Charon. I wonder whether they can patch the sights?


I really hope they do, because gunsight accuracy is vitally important from a sim perspective. As it is now, it seems just cosmetic, and not a working gunsight. Has anyone from the developer ever commented on gunsight accuracy?
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#3583333 - 05/31/12 11:03 AM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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Wow!...How are you going to do on Iron-Front's Monday Military Op. when it is going to be time to shoot your rifle in combat and a retired Drill

Sergeant with a charming personality looking over your shoulder?...Are you going to count beans, push paper clips, and invoke the

inacuracy of your rifle sights?....Or are you just going to Adapt, Improvise, and Overcome? salute
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#3583376 - 05/31/12 12:15 PM Re: engagement ranges and other tank questions... [Re: charon2112]
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I'll probably do ok.

Can't we discuss these features? I don't understand why it's a problem discussing that we'd like to see some of the tank sights.improved because at the moment a couple of them really do seem just superficial. I can do just fine without them being accurate but there's no haem in us wanting them to be functional.

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