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#3579654 - 05/25/12 12:40 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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This development is not a game or a conspiracy, its a business with millions of dollars invested. The only possible way this business will make money is by fixing the game issues, not by using smoke and mirrors. The development has already played their past quality card releasing the sim unfinished to give the sim a chance to be finished. There is absolutely no point and they don't have the time to play silly head games with the community, they already have our money and aren't getting any more until they deliver.
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#3579711 - 05/25/12 01:47 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
This development is not a game or a conspiracy, its a business with millions of dollars invested. The only possible way this business will make money is by fixing the game issues, not by using smoke and mirrors. The development has already played their past quality card releasing the sim unfinished to give the sim a chance to be finished. There is absolutely no point and they don't have the time to play silly head games with the community, they already have our money and aren't getting any more until they deliver.



Chivas, I know that you have the best of intentions about "explaining" CloD.
All appearances, patches and communication from "Luthier" suggest a "Titanic" ending
for this "mistake"...It doesn't matter how hard "they" are trying to bail the boat,
using coffee cups.

When the designated "community manager" for CloD at 1C does not have anything, whatsoever,
to do with or fixing CloD? You have one heck of a serious problem. A problem that 1C will not
fix. Let alone, fix this sim. Google the word "maskirovka", perhaps you will have a better
understanding of what is going on and the why of it.

If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

No disrespect to your person Chivas.
You are without a doubt, the most positive person to ever write about CloD.
While it may seem that I am a critic here?
I appreciate your many attempts to do the right thing. My comments are meant
to be more aimed at 1C, Luthier and Blacksix.

Salute Chivas
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If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

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#3579738 - 05/25/12 02:19 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Pudfark]
Chivas Offline
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Originally Posted By: Pudfark
Originally Posted By: Chivas
This development is not a game or a conspiracy, its a business with millions of dollars invested. The only possible way this business will make money is by fixing the game issues, not by using smoke and mirrors. The development has already played their past quality card releasing the sim unfinished to give the sim a chance to be finished. There is absolutely no point and they don't have the time to play silly head games with the community, they already have our money and aren't getting any more until they deliver.



Chivas, I know that you have the best of intentions about "explaining" CloD.
All appearances, patches and communication from "Luthier" suggest a "Titanic" ending
for this "mistake"...It doesn't matter how hard "they" are trying to bail the boat,
using coffee cups.

When the designated "community manager" for CloD at 1C does not have anything, whatsoever,
to do with or fixing CloD? You have one heck of a serious problem. A problem that 1C will not
fix. Let alone, fix this sim. Google the word "maskirovka", perhaps you will have a better
understanding of what is going on and the why of it.

If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

No disrespect to your person Chivas.
You are without a doubt, the most positive person to ever write about CloD.
While it may seem that I am a critic here?
I appreciate your many attempts to do the right thing. My comments are meant
to be more aimed at 1C, Luthier and Blacksix.

Salute Chivas


I never been totally optimistic on the sims survival, as a matter of fact I've often suggested this sim will fail if the latest stability patch is unsuccesfull. I just don't agree with your opinion that COD is dead because the development crew is working on the sequel, as its the same game except for maps, and campaigns.
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#3579798 - 05/25/12 03:45 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
Originally Posted By: Pudfark
Originally Posted By: Chivas
This development is not a game or a conspiracy, its a business with millions of dollars invested. The only possible way this business will make money is by fixing the game issues, not by using smoke and mirrors. The development has already played their past quality card releasing the sim unfinished to give the sim a chance to be finished. There is absolutely no point and they don't have the time to play silly head games with the community, they already have our money and aren't getting any more until they deliver.



Chivas, I know that you have the best of intentions about "explaining" CloD.
All appearances, patches and communication from "Luthier" suggest a "Titanic" ending
for this "mistake"...It doesn't matter how hard "they" are trying to bail the boat,
using coffee cups.

When the designated "community manager" for CloD at 1C does not have anything, whatsoever,
to do with or fixing CloD? You have one heck of a serious problem. A problem that 1C will not
fix. Let alone, fix this sim. Google the word "maskirovka", perhaps you will have a better
understanding of what is going on and the why of it.

If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

No disrespect to your person Chivas.
You are without a doubt, the most positive person to ever write about CloD.
While it may seem that I am a critic here?
I appreciate your many attempts to do the right thing. My comments are meant
to be more aimed at 1C, Luthier and Blacksix.

Salute Chivas


I never been totally optimistic on the sims survival, as a matter of fact I've often suggested this sim will fail if the latest stability patch is unsuccesfull. I just don't agree with your opinion that COD is dead because the development crew is working on the sequel, as its the same game except for maps, and campaigns.



The problem here Chivas is that there really doesn't seem to be 8 months of a code re-write in the patch we received. They just stripped out textures and turned off features that were giving them problems, and the game is still porked. Even the ATAG folks are complaining about the slide show present now when attacking human planes. So what the hell were they doing for the last 8 months? It would be my guess they were going full steam on the sequel and in the last month finally decided they needed to put together some sort of patch. I don't care to hear your same argument about "Modelers for BOM don't work on game code" stuff. Unless you show me a list of employees for Maddox that shows exactly what each person does, you are just speculating.

I would think that 1C is in full on crunch mode with money and time, that means they will be having people multitask and take on more duties than is optimal. You might very well have modeling people helping out on the coding. We just don't know.
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#3579808 - 05/25/12 04:06 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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Modellers of anything don't work on code. They create 3D models, they don't code.

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#3579814 - 05/25/12 04:14 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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Well maybe they should be working on some more ships for COD, instead of just a minesweeper.
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#3579836 - 05/25/12 04:31 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: NattyIced]
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Originally Posted By: NattyIced
Modellers of anything don't work on code. They create 3D models, they don't code.



And you know this how? I realize that's how it's supposed to work. Unless you have been to some meetings at COD headquarters, you don't know who's working on what. The way COD has been going, I doubt coders have been working on the code lately.
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#3579844 - 05/25/12 04:37 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Force10]
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It seems to me the "code writers" for CloD....have been using the wrong end of the pencil.
oops
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If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

Top
#3579849 - 05/25/12 04:49 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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I know this because I'm in IT. Coders go to school to code. Modellers go to school for 3D modelling. The two do not intertwine. It'd be like a database administrator that does SQL going out and setting up an advanced network. Not going to happen.

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#3579858 - 05/25/12 04:55 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: NattyIced]
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Originally Posted By: NattyIced
I know this because I'm in IT. Coders go to school to code. Modellers go to school for 3D modelling. The two do not intertwine. It'd be like a database administrator that does SQL going out and setting up an advanced network. Not going to happen.


Doesn't mean squat. You still don't know what the hell is going on over there so don't pretend you do. There are plenty of modeling folks that pick up on coding through their years and dabble in it themselves. You don't always want to pigeon hole yourself in one area and one area only. There are plenty of modders for games that make the models and then code them in. Unless you work for Luthier, you can't prove otherwise.
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