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#3575691 - 05/19/12 04:31 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Olham]
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JIM, I know better what you mean, than you may think.
Music is the direct connection with my emotional me - with no filters inbetween.
I can get totally "lost" in some pieces, without ever feeling lost.
And I sure would not listen to music in a cockpit of a plane -
here I would want my concentration on my vision - on all I can catch with my eyes.
In films, the music can often bring the emotions to even higher peaks than the pictures
alone ever could. In "Over Flanders Fields", Matt Milne's opening title, and his
"menue music" both brought me back in time about 90 years, when I didn't even know
anything much about the air war over Flanders.
And the music transported a respectful encounter with all those fallen men, and those
who lived to tell the stories - without taking sides, but very serious and honouring.
I guess my English is not good enough to find even better words.
For above reasons, the musical score of "Over Flanders Fields" belongs to the sim.
It puts me in a flying suit; it wipes the arrogance off my goggled face, and
it makes me feel respect and pity for those I send down. No less.
Talk about power of music... Here, here!!! Well said, Olham! I could not agree more. This is something missing from the Russian build sims (DCS, IL2, etc.). Technically excellent but lacking immersion. Lacking...a soul. OFF has it, and now WOFF.
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#3575986 - 05/20/12 07:48 AM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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.  Holy Schnikee!
Edited by RAF_Louvert (05/23/12 09:17 AM)
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If he only crashes this side in flames,
Well, only then they'll believe your claims.
So keep him tight in your Aldis sight,
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#3576038 - 05/20/12 09:24 AM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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Love the vid Pol.
Got me thinking about the vewpoints you managed, which is deceptively difficult with CFS3. People who haven't tried don't know how hard it is to capture footage in CFS3 land. You have to do everything manually, there's only ever one take and there's no such thing as a multiple viewpoint. For every Mb you see in a movie, you can be sure there's a Gb left on the cutting room floor. - And I mean Gigs of it!
I love Matt's music too. To me, it's as good and as appropriate to the mood of OFF as any music score I've ever heard to a movie. Yet again, I used to make a few CFS3 movies for youtube, but not many OFF movies because the sound just wasn't 'doing it' for me. I don't mean the OFF sound, but trying to find 'fitting' music. One of the reasons I like that Boys of 60 movie is the pipes playing in the background which wasn't added soundtrack but one of Stumpjumpers addons.
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#3576076 - 05/20/12 10:47 AM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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It was one of the challenges in scoring woff. Too cheesy, corny and cliched and it becomes downright disrespectful very quickly, too atmospheric or percussive and it sucks the life out of it leaving the player unsupported.
The custom track partially solved those problems for the trailers, and helps the editing a bit.
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#3576287 - 05/20/12 04:51 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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New video looks sharp and I like the new name WOFF. Short, simple, and keeps the original OFF in the title. Besides, it sounds just like the noise my dog makes when he barks (he barks with a lisp mind you).
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#3576355 - 05/20/12 07:18 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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Thanks for the comment guys, btw I updated the first movie (preview 1#) there's a couple of extra clips in there now - it's below this one on our news page. Quite right Flyby I film all the time, so have hard drives full of vid but we update things all the time so I have to ignore a lot of it as it's now "old" even the 2 week old stuff 
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#3576397 - 05/20/12 08:19 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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Hi Matt. As a classically-trained but amateur composer, I'm curious if any historical music of the time period had any influence on your scoring. We're used to anachronistic music in movies and such, but audiences from say 1914 would probably freak out at your trailer tune.
Interesting thing is you can almost hear WW1 in some of the music just prior, as if some composers could see it coming. Arnold Schoenberg's Three Piano Pieces (op 11) from 1909 and their emancipation of dissonance is a perfect example.
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#3576453 - 05/20/12 10:03 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Polovski]
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i'm hoping to create a separate thread on the score and how it was put together post-release.
but in short, I wrote the whole thing from one screenshot. As a rule of thumb, you should always score what's in front of you from what's in front of you.
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#3576455 - 05/20/12 10:10 PM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: Lothar_of_the_Hill_People]
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Interesting thing is you can almost hear WW1 in some of the music just prior, as if some composers could see it coming. Arnold Schoenberg's Three Piano Pieces (op 11) from 1909 and their emancipation of dissonance is a perfect example. Art reflects the period in which she's created. The world was changing fast politically, economically, morally, technologically and scientifically. It's the end of Romanticism, the beginning of a new era. Everything seemed to plot in favor of a apocalyptic event like WWI, that I'm sure a lot of artists sensed that. It's also true, that it's in these periods that usually the artistic "grammars" are rewritten.
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#3576531 - 05/21/12 02:24 AM
Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * *
[Re: matmilne]
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i'm hoping to create a separate thread on the score and how it was put together post-release.
but in short, I wrote the whole thing from one screenshot. As a rule of thumb, you should always score what's in front of you from what's in front of you.
I very much look forward to that thread, Matt.
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