I recently started playing RoF again. I have upgraded my video card from a GTX 260 to a 560ti 2GB and I am a bit disappointed as my frame rates are still rather low. I hardly see much of an improvement with the new video card.

These are the settings I am running:



The rest of my specs:
AMD 965
GTX 560ti 2B
8GB DDR2
WD Black HDD
Win 7 64bit

On the ground (SP quick mission, a few AI planes and AA) when taking off I get around 19-21 frame rates with the settings above. Engine smoke from planes can kill my frame rates by a large amount (5-10).

I am wondering what settings I should turn down? And are there any frame rate/performance tweaks I should try?

And is my GPU still limiting or is my CPU the big bottleneck in this title?

I think Super Sampling is the biggest frame rate killer. I'd try that first.

RedToo.

I would try:
- supersampling off
- multi-gpu on
- Set a FPS-limit, it normally helps getting rid of stutters

I think that should do it.

If its still struggling, AA from 8 to 4.
I don't see that much improvement but it takes alot of GPU-power.

On the other hand you can increase Gras, Anisotropic Filter to 8x and Reflections to high without much a loss.
Also think about increasing Objects distance to 80% or 100%.

Get rid of super sampling. That's going to kill your framerate. I don't know what high contrast does, I had it enabled once and then disabled it and didn't notice any difference - up to you but you could just axe that.

At that resolution you should try 4x AA.

Since you are using a single card solution, you shouldn't enable multi-gpu.

turn off super sampling and reduce shadows from special high to med. then increase AF to full or (x8)at least

Also try turning down 'landscape' to medium - it uses far more resources on high than it does on med. and the difference in view is slight

use your monitors native resolution

I would try to. It increases FPS even on non-multigpu. Some experience stutters though. So just test it.

I'd guess that if he turns off super sampling everything will be fine. SS is a major frame rate hog.

I'll turn off Super Sampling and see what my frame rates look like.

Though at first I had it disabled and the jaggies in the distance and on my plane were rather noticeable. Should I disable AA and try forcing it through the Nvidia control panel?

Jason already stated that you don't run supersampling along with AAX8, otherwise you'll get slide show!
Best to keep supersampling on, is to decrease AA to X2, and AF to bilinear.
Perso i much prefer staying with AAX8, AFX8, and no supersampling...but SSGSA X2 in inspector.

No CPU bottleneck, check you CPU usage during game play and you will see that it does not even come close to using its max potential. My 6core AMD is similar to yours in clock speed and it never goes above 40% usage in this game.

Check your GPU usage while playing this game and you will see even with everything pretty much maxed out it does not use even 50% of the GPU power. The highest I've seen it use on my system is 51% GPU with vram usage at 98% on a 1GB 560ti. Running the game with less % on the vram has almost no impact on how many FPS you get.

This game is poorly optimized and pretty much any settings you pick beside super sampling will have almost no effect on how the game runs. To me the game runs crappier with each release.

Your system should stomp a mudhole in this 3 year old game...

I built my friend a computer with a AMD Phenom II X6 and a GeForce 560Ti 1024GB.

Most settings set to high at an abnormal resolution because of the TV he's running his PC through, and it runs great.

I'd venture a guess your system is a mudhole.

If a game keeps getting updated with new graphical features, it won't run the same as it did when it was first released. Common sense right there.

Wow! that's just awesome, you can build computers for your friends.

Define running great?

My "mudhole" runs all my games perfectly,except this game.

I did not own this game when it was new so I don't know how it ran 3 years ago, but I do know that this game does not even come close to pushing my hardware to it's limits.

Nice personal attack though, feel better about yourself?

I'll try Supersampling with 2x AA then. Without it (and all other settings in the OP) my frame rates average in the 40-50s, high 30s if there is a large explosion.

Though without Supersampling the AA does look rather bad to me especially when I am on the ground. Very hard to tell if I am seeing a hill or not which is important when you are landing.

Even if this game is poorly optimized, I would assume something like a GTX670 would increase my frame rates?

I don't know to be honest, I saw a guy on the Rise of flight forums with a GTX 680 who had everything "maxed out" and he said he was getting fps under 60 with SS enabled. http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=29957&start=10 post #12 and post #21, he seems to be happy with it though.

Good luck if you decide to get a new graphics card.

Thanks for the reply. So bad AA, horribly optimized, and apparently it resets your control layouts whenever it pleases.

Previously I had my hatch switch on my X52Pro pan my pilot's head around. Worked perfectly. Was playing around in the quick mission editor and decided to play a single mission. Accept now my hatch switch no longer pans my pilot's head around. Instead it zooms in and turns to a fixed position left/right/above/below.

Very annoying. Now I have no idea how to figure out how to fix it.

To top it off, the options menu/control/input area where you select what button does what includes a meta game in itself. Clicking once, or twice, does not do anything. Instead you have to click 6-7 times, in which you will wait for the laggy menu to understand you want to set a new function. Problem is, sometimes it sets it to your mouse clicking... then you must click cancel and restart the meta game all over.

Looks like this game really isn't worth anyone's time if they can not get graphics or input settings to work. To top it off, they break up the community with over priced DLC ($15 for a WWI plane? $20 for a new map? Really?). Luckily I only bought the version of the game with 6-7 planes. I'd hate to throw more money at these developers until they can fix issues with the core game.

Though after spending over an hour playing the menu meta game trying to reset my buttons (with no success yet) I am wondering if I should just uninstall the game now... for all I know the next time I start a mission the game will decide my previous joystick layout is not good enough and change it to their liking.

Poor optimization would have the game pegging your CPU and GPU at high loads without any performance. Just because a game doesn't peg GPU or CPU doesn't mean it isn't pushing it where it can, that actually implies optimization.

For example, ClOD does not push the CPU more than 40% on a single core but pegs the GPU up near 90% and it runs like a bag of crap.

Just saying its funny how I have not experienced any of the random resets to my control layouts & I've been playing for 3 years... It could be you who is the problem.

As for the jibe about the new content. How would you recommend the developers put bread on the table? Face the facts the game is 3 years old & they are still supporting it tooth & nail, heck you can even download the game for free.

grass off, trees low, no bloom nor high contrast.

No need to have a go at the Devs, if you are really struggling, may I suggest heading to the official forums and ask over there for help...posting specs and main issues. Someone will help you out , they are a friendly bunch.

ie, when you set up your controls and settings, export it and give the profile a name, each update has always overwritten the default controls settings. You can then , at any time, import that profile back into the game.

If you are stuck, I can help you on TS3 anytime { Im in Scotland so we would have to work out the times etc }

I used to run ROF on a Core 2 Duo and Nvidia 285, XP32. It ran fine till there was more than 10 aircraft or so on screen, then it was still playable but started to slowdown.

You should be able to max most settings apart from super sampling, trees and possibly shadows. There are plenty of people running ROF on lower spec systems.

Turn reflection off! Here are my settings for online play:
(phenom IIx4 3.3ghz, hd 6850)
BTW, you can try SMAA Injector. Info here: SMAA Injector (Thanks Joker)

Take landscape down from high to medium (the biggest decrease in memory usage) and from 2000m you don't see the difference...

meuhey, you should be able to turn some of those things on or up. My old system is 4 x 2.66 with a 4870 and grass/trees were on high. Trees are a must for me. Now that said, I agree post processing on marginal to low end systems needs to be turned off. Ground texture at medium was the biggest help, and Aniso at bilinear.


Armitage, my 6 year old system ran fine with reflections medium. I'd try turning them on with your system specs...

Ah-hem, now new system and running maxed out, except supersampling. As Jason mentioned, it still crushes all but the mightiest GPUs and I sure don't have one of those...

I have a pretty damn good GPU now - a 6970 Lighting 2G - and SS drives it down and doesn't look any better than cranking up all the other settings.

Not to brag - OK I will - I can get mid 30s FPs w/ 30 a/c in the air. Don't hate me. I waited a LOOOOOONNNNGGGGG time to finally get a beefy rig and I am know loving life.

Only mid-30s? I believe you should be able to obtain more than that. I'm mostly above the 60 fps mark at 30 planes with all ground objects. I have a GTX580 myself, but the 6970 should be close. RoF settings included:

Yes NattyIced, but turn on SS like Barkhorn1x and report back.

I thought he tried it and turned it off because it didn't look any better than maxing everything else. If I'm mistaken then ignore my post.

Well yes, he meant mid 30s with SS turned on, but to him it doesn't look any different.

This game isn't worth anyone's time!!!!? You're kidding , right? Laggy menu? Funny I don't have that. Works beautifuly and without problems on my rig. Most played game on my computer. Game core needs fixing , my a##!
Problem is at your end. Clean up your computer, turn off background programs. i7 processor, here. 2.95 GB. 8 GB of RAMM. 2GB ATI 5770 Video Card. No super computer and ROF runs great.

My mistake. I thought he referenced that SS on or off doesn't look any difference and with it off he was getting mid 30s FPS. With SS on, I get around the same performance so that would make more sense. Now if I could get my NVCP to work properly and actually process MSAA for any game that would be awesome.

In any event, you know what would be cool? A developer to create a visually terrific game with a great DM and an amazing FM and oh - it already exists and is called Rise of Flight?

Clarification for my poorly written sentence; I tried SS but do not use it as it causes an FPS hit and I don't really see an improvement in the look of the sim that would warrant keeping it on.

Then do post your print screen of your settings in RoF and Catalyst, this will help people more then, shouting.

Thoarax, your name on ROF forums wouldn't happen to be der Zahn, would it? If so, it explains your bristly manner and the fact that you've charged Rise of Flight with being "poorly optimized"....again. If you're not der Zahn, then I'll just add you to the rather short list of helpful people who like to post scathing comments trashing Rise of Flight for being the worst thing since sliced bread, when it appears that you still haven't figured out what settings you need to get everything working well.

Flogger23m: Turn off Supersampling. Everything else you should be able to run on high with that setup, as you have plenty of VRAM and the GTX 560ti is more than powerful enough to power through those settings. If you still run into trouble, try adjusting Lanscape, Reflections, Shadows, and Shader Quality down a notch and see how it handles.

Good luck.

I just upgraded my monitor from 22" 16/10 to 27" 16/9. Since I run an old PC with Core Duo E8500 and ATI HD 5870 with Windows XP, I was affraid I would have problems with my settings. But to my surprise, it runs smoother in 1920x1080 than it did before in 1680x1050, without having to change anything ( I mainly have landscape medium and no reflections , everything else is high, AAx4 and AFx8 )
RoF can run on older systems with little loss in graphics.
The good thing now is I much better see what's going on during MP flights !

Whats the ROF forums? Who?

Worst thing since sliced bread? I was under the impression sliced bread was a good thing.

Add me to the list (oh no anything but the list!) if you want.

I could be a better person if you purchased me some planes as gifts. I will pm you my info so you can send them at your earliest convenience. .

I upgraded my rig to quad sli 680 GTX's with a 580 GTX as a physx card. I found all the latest and greatest settings with your help, and helpers like you. My game running just awesome, all settings maxed out over 200 FPS steady, right near the ground with 30 planes in the air. Thank You!

Sincerly,
Your new and besterest buddy in the whole wide world,
Dominick Enrique Rodriguez Zapata Alfonzo Hector Noriega the III :Esquire

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