Nieuport 17 and 28 (28 especially)

SE5 A (I know it was nerfed)

Sopwith Tripe

Sopwith Dolphin

If so, tips on what to do as the SE5 A's wings rip off like paper, the Nieuport doesn't really do anything great, the 17 seems like fodder and the Tripe, well, it's just slow.

Maybe I just suck!

But, any tips would be appreciated here (or just tell me they're worthless--I know the SE5 A shouldn't be...).

The Nieuport 17 is no longer fodder. Belive me...it isn't
Can't remember what server. I take off in my little '17. Two Albatross d2's come after me, and we are all over the sky. They can't stay on my tail, and I can't hang on to either one long enough to get a killing shot in without the other climbing onto me.
Suddeny, another one joins in, and then two more. I'm fighting five Albatross D2's! I get one! He goes down, on fire and then, believe it or not, two others collide. Then my engine stops.
I glide down, unmolested and make a nice smooth landing. No kill was scored against me, and I actually think that I ran out of gas. I don't know how long we fought, but I had to write, "Whew!" It's one of the few airplanes in which I've been commended by my foes. "Nice flying Pooch. Good fight." Nice to hear. I don't get that much.
I did the same against three, getting two. I fly it whenever it's available. Love it.
It used to be one of the worst...if not THE worst airplane in the sim. But they listened to us and fixed it beautifully.
I've given up on the SE-5. Along with the N17, it was one of my favorite WW1 airplanes. I am bloody awful in it. I grab the SPAD13 instead, if it's available.
The Tripe? I lose my wings, every time. Fly it very little.
Dolphin. Best visibility of any in the game. Don't fly it if you want to do anything but sightsee
For me, N17 and Camel.

Not sure if this helps, but I was ripping off the wings from the Pup quite frequently, until I took the time to play with and adjust the response curves for the Pup and saved them to their own profile. Perhaps try this?

Nieuport 17 takes a while to master, but is an Albatros killer.
Sopwith Tripe is nice to fly but only has one MG.
Sopwith Dolphin also tricky to fly but probably one of the best planes.
SE5a is one of the best Boom and Zoom together with the Spad XIII.

Mentioning the N-17, how would you rate it alongside the Spad VII?

N17 - Good turn fighter and can beat its contempary opponents handily, but the one gun means you need steady aim when the shot opportunities arise.

N28 - Takes a bit of work to do well with as an energy fighter. You need to be very gentle with it, but be sure to make use of its superior roll and climb ability.

SE5a - Was not nerfed as thats implying imbalance. Its FM is fixed now and if you are ripping the wings off then quite simply you are pulling too hard at too high a speed.

Sop Tripe - Great little plane, but you need to master reversing into left turns (climbing, level, or diving) before you become proficient at killing with it.

Sop Dolphin - One of the very underrated planes of RoF. Its only surpassed in this respect by the Pfalz D.XII. In IRFC we call it the Spamel. Not quite a Spad, and not quite a Camel, but if they had a baby that got bits and pieces of their traits then this is it. You can outturn D.VIIFs in this using a sustained turn.

The tripe is one of my favourites, but you want a good set of rudder pedals to get the best out of it then she will slip and slide making you a much more difficult target if your defensive, on the offence you can out turn most enemy planes, but again good rudder pedals help keep it in a turn.

The Se5a only rips its wings of if you jerk them up or even worse up then down after a high speed dive, once you get used to it this is one of the best killers around and you can nearly always exit a fight when you want.

I think what everyone is saying is that you really have to take the time to learn each and every bus/crate you fly.
They are all very different, and I get kinda manic when I jump around too much between aircraft. My death frequency also seems to increase...

So pick one to become proficient in and stick with it as much as possible for a few weeks. Really, you will improve significantly.

Picking one is hard to do when the online servers restrict the aircraft you can fly.

Oh, I agree, missions rotate and the plane set changes. It can't be avoided. But, on the Central side there are always Albatrosses if not the same type they handle relatively similar.

For Entente, stick to inline engines only if possible, say SPADs and SE5a. The Dolphin is a tough FM. The rotary engined buses are fun to fly, but require some dedication to become really good in them. I'm my own worst enemy when flying the rotaries and spin in for a burton just too often. Its embarrassing...

SE5a flies better than ever. Stop whining and make an effort to fight with your brain and not simple reflex.

Why don't you post something useful and explain how. That was the purpose of this thread.

The planes are good, in the right hands...those hands are not mine, lol. But I still go up as often as I can anyway! Maybe one of these days I will figure out how to not die in every fight I wind up in

I've come to the conclusion that Allied planes stink!

Their wings rip off
Their engines get damaged super easy (throw sand at them)
They are twitchy as heck so you can't aim
Half of them have one gun!

I switched to German planes and all my problems went away. I'm killing people every flight almost in them. In Allied planes, maybe one kill every ten flights.

This is even after spending months mastering the Camel, which, is NERFED online with 60% fuel. What's the stupid point. German planes are utterly noob friendly as I have almost zero seat time in them and can kill like crazy compared with lots of hours in allied planes. This is all online.

You must not be flying on Syndicate. In the last month of statistics there the Entente shot down more despite flying fewer sorties.

I'm not saying you're right, Blastman, but I definitely prefer the German planes over the Allied planes. I can't do crap in almost all of the Allied planes, but I find the German planes fit my style very well.

I really can't wait for the Albatros and Pfalz D3a flight models to be revised. We'll see how easy a pitch sensitive, poor rolling Albatros is to fly in circles. The present DII and DVa are way too stable in pitch and hardly adverse yaw at all, it's no wonder the Central crates have an easy fly rep with these two yank and bank crates. They should be faster though

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any sign from the devs that an Albatros FM review is on the cards.

Sounds like the RoF D.VII (mercedes).

That's a huge part of the problem--it's easy as CAKE to aim with the German planes. It's utterly impossible to hold your guns on target with the allied planes because they are sooooo twitchy.

Mr. Blastman, you know why I ripped into you earlier? Because you make blanket statements that come off as whines, and now you're doing it again.

Mogster has it right. There are a few German aircraft that are ridiculously docile in flight: the Albatros D.II, D.Va, and Pfalz D.IIIa. On the flip side, the Fokker Dr.1 and D.VIII are two of the twitchiest aircraft in the sim. In the middle are the two D.VIIs (which are both pitch sensitive and sluggish in roll) and the Albatros D.III. There's also the Pfalz D.XII which is a flying tank that is easy to spin; it only becomes a good scout above 3km.

It's ironic that the SE5a is one of the most stable, easy to aim scouts in the sim, because that's the aircraft you started your whine with. If you began with some objective observations and a genuinely open mind you would learn a lot more and ultimately have more fun with your sim time.

Do you know why I don't give a wrinkle about what you say? Because you offer NO HELP. You just offer criticism. Your posts are worthless in this thread. Do us a favor and instead of boasting, provide facts and details pertaining to the aircraft mentioned.

Don't just say - oh wow, the SE 5 is the bestest plane evar!!!!11111 Instead, say--okay, this is how you win in the Sopwith Tripe

This is how you win in the Scout

This is a tip on how to make aiming easier

This is a tip on how to fly with them and not die

That's what I'm looking for here. You provide none of this. Until you do, stay out of my thread please. Thank you. You don't urinate all over someone that is frustrated like I'm becoming. You provide help rather than just... "Oh, well, figure it out through your own observations." If you did this, the thread would be bettered.

SE5a: Convert energy to speed and vice versa. That means get altitude, dive on an opponent, then climb away to make another attack. I am not talking about strict B&Z where you make a single pass and extend. It is more about maintaining a positive energy state. Resist the urge to turn horizontally. Instead, pull up to get some altitude and then chandelle or renversement to make the next attack. If you find yourself losing the energy battle then it's time to dive away at full throttle to come back another day.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2515610/Re_WWI_Basic_Combat_Maneuver_d.html

Triplane: With any of the twitchy planes (Tripe, Camel, DRI, E.III, others?) I would strongly recommend rudder pedals. You will need a constant balance of rudder and aileron to keep these planes in line, otherwise they will be too sluggish (aileron turn) or almost uncontrollably twitchy (rudder/elevator). I have made some absolutely brilliant evasive maneuvers in the DRI - mostly on accident. When I am flying it well it is almost always using both rudder and aileron simultaneously with constant adjustments. In a sense it is almost like driving a persnickety stick shift where you have to engage the gas and release the clutch just so.