Do these a-holes have nothing better to do than pad their stats?

That is all.

I think they want to feel as if they are real WWI aces taking on the easy pickings.

Not counting myself as an expert...

1. Maybe because there is no-one else on any other server; a very common issue
2. They have limited time and the novice servers are setup for quick action

Also, a novice server kills do not go to a players stats.


The only time I have an issue with the experts is when they do not split up into the other teams and one side is smashing the other but other than that I accept I am bullet fodder

I'm no expert, but sometimes I play on those servers cause there is no one anywhere else!

They have big egos to nourish.
The funny thing is that as soon as they get someone who can give them a good fight they invariably quit instead of rising to the challange and learning something.
It's the same in every game online, always has been and always will.

Who is an expert is relative, of course. Average pilots who get worked over pretty badly at Syndicate might clean up at New Wings. Most likely, experienced pilots fly on the beginner servers because all other servers are empty. They are not there to pad their stats because global statistics are not enabled.

I ran into this way back when I played Eve Online...

We always had people or knew of people who got the best ships money could buy ( say, a Thanatos carrier ) and sat just inside docking radius to a station. After aggressing someone, the "player" would get his kicks taking the damage ( destroying everyone who came along ) right up until someone who was strong enough showed up, then docked until the threat to his ego went away. After it calmed down a bit, back out he'd come to pop more player ships.

Eventually the @sshat got himself a Mothership, then proceeded to really wreak havoc on all the newer players that came out to this one backwater area to "get away from it all", just to be rewarded with the same griefing they had traveled for almost an in-game half hour to get away from. He was a real peach.

As Georgio said, it sounds like many of these guys have big egos to nourish...perhaps some of them really ARE looking for anything that has activity on it for a server, but I'll throw my hat in for the former reason.

Those of you who have more patience than I do can deal with these types, I prefer to stay away from multiplayer.

I'm no expert but not a noob either. I go there because most of the time there's nothing else going on on the other servers.

The novice servers have aids on. A lot of people prefer to fly that way.

Just like you get plenty of new pilots in in the Syndicate and HQ servers because they like the server settings.

Online flying is always going to be a challenge, which ever servers you choose, I've been playing RoF since the beta, flight sims for going on 20 years, yet still have nights where I can't stay in the air for more than 5 minutes at a time.

I always fly in the fullest server which is either New Wings or Syndicate. As far as I can tell there are only 2 servers on the Internet.

I go with the fullest servers. A giant fur ball is fun. There are people who have 35 kills and never get shot down. Not to mention the guy who gets in the backseat of a bomber and shoots at his teammates. Why They do it ? But its still fun just stay away from bombers and stick to the center of the furballs.

I am a definite novice, and usually get owned pretty badly on the multiplayer servers. I almost exclusively fly on the new wings server, since it is for novices. I did notice that there were a lot of flyers with more skill than me, but I still find it really fun most of the time. However lately, almost 100% of the time, I will do fairly decent and then be killed by my own teammates. Im fairly sure that it is intentional too. The end result is that I only play multiplayer now as a last resort, if I get bored with the career. I always try to follow the established rules for the server, and its frustrating when someone intentionally team kills you. I still cant figure out why someone would do that other than just to be a jerk. I have a hard enough time trying to survive against the enemy without getting shot down by someone from my own team.

When I started flying MP I remember getting my arse shot up so many times on New Wings from this clique of about 4 or 5 Dr1 prigs (who were probably on Teamspeak), that I got into an SE5a, got lots of altitude, then bounced one of them successfully. He was flaming, then Poof! He ducked the server. Now there's a man for you...

Now I can hold my own (certainly don't consider myself an expert...), most times I give as good as I get, and I do go onto New Wings for all the reasons mentioned here. I try to fly honourably, unless I see brattish behaviour, and I am more successful than not.

What does that make me?

That's why I quit playing RoF online. I'm no sim novice. Logged far too many hours on the IL-2 War-Clouds serer and generally did well there.

When I got into RoF, I went online to New Wings to get a feel for the game. My sexuality was immediately called into question due to my choice of plane (I think I took up a Dolphin) and ran into a bunch of asshats in DVIIs who carried on in much the same way as Bandy outlined. Not my idea of fun. If the admins aren't going to police the server, why bother going on?

Mugwump, please don't mistake the rant my post.
Sure, there are 'Richards' on every server, and I'm sure you had your share of them over the years flying IL2.

But that is no reason to abandon RoF multiplayer. Simply find a server that works for you/fits your taste and 'reality' level. I fly on Syndicate, Oceanic, FeoW (when operational) and have a real blast. I can't fly against AI anymore and not feel like something is missing.

Having a wingmate or two really helps, but I have never had too much of a problem joining up with someone friendly that I found while flying around.

So please, give MP another chance. PM me and maybe we can make arrangements to wing together on a Syndicate Sunday mission.

Speaking of Muli player, Why is it the server says no Team Killing, but U end up fighting 4 or 5 Dr-1's or D-7's at 1 time ? The other thing is How U can get Rammed and crash but the other aircraft just flys on . One more, Teamspeak. Voice radio never existed during that time period how is it justified in a game about WWI a/c ? Just my 2 cents of a Rant. One more time into the breach, my fellow PC Pilots.

No Team Killing means (I believe) if you fly Central you don't shoot down other Central aircraft.

While getting gang raped by a flight of the enemy is never fun (we've all been there no doubt), it is historic and realistic to the period. You quickly learn to fly with others, and/or keep your head on a swivel and avoid all large flights of bogies (unidentified aircraft) that are not already engaged in combat. ALWAYS engage on your terms, have the height advantage, etc.

Yeah the unintentional crashes where one exits undamaged is annoying, but it doesn't happen too frequently.

Teamspeak, now there is an issue with no resolution. Yes, it is not historical, and no amount of arguing about hand signals/flares is going to change that, period. I dislike it when I am on the receiving end of a group using Teamspeak, but when I've flown with others and used Teamspeak the fun level jumps exponentially. I'm making new friends that I simply wouldn't have flying without Teamspeak. Unfortunately my vote is to accept this necessary evil. Give it a try is all I can say.

Bandy out

Ok lets keep Teamspeak in WWI, But couldnt it be use to plan a raid or review the scrap ? It does seem unequal for some in a furball to have voice, over, newbies without ? while on a newbie server. Other than that I agree and thanks for the definition of Team killing.

When we fly "fun squadron evenings" on our server (Hellequins) we use Teamspeak in flight, but I would say there is 75% of chit-chat about all kinds of things and 25% of really tactical comms.... During "serious events" like some historical coop missions or campaigns we fly with other squadrons the use of Teamspeak is restricted to pre-flight and after flight briefings when everyone is on land. I must say I like both, it's two different moods...

Wow you guys are pros. Sounds like a good operational plan for gaming.

Team killing is a problem with the server, as every server has the option to turn on kill-shooter.

I've never even witnessed a team kill, though admittedly, I am only lately to MP. Well, that's not true entirely. One time I took off from an airfield, and some newbie who was parked started shooting at me. I think/hope it was just a mistake...

As mentioned, maybe it is just the server you go on???

I've seen it on every server I've visited. It has happened to me enough that I am always paranoid when a friendly flies up to my 6 o'clock. Someone who wants to fly an impromptu sortie with you should fly up to your wing.